Refraction - what's happening for real

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The discussion centers on the phenomenon of refraction, specifically how light behaves when transitioning from air to water. Participants clarify that while light bends downwards when entering water, the apparent position of objects, like a pole, can appear to bend upwards due to the brain's interpretation of light traveling in straight lines. This confusion is resolved through the application of Snell's Law and the use of ray diagrams to visualize the light's path. Understanding these concepts is essential for grasping the true nature of refraction.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Snell's Law in optics
  • Basic knowledge of light behavior in different media
  • Ability to interpret ray diagrams
  • Familiarity with the concept of apparent versus actual position of objects
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  • Study Snell's Law in detail to understand light refraction
  • Practice drawing ray diagrams to visualize light paths
  • Explore the concept of total internal reflection in optics
  • Investigate real-world applications of refraction, such as in lenses and optical devices
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Students of physics, educators teaching optics, and anyone interested in understanding the principles of light behavior and refraction.

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Ok. I don't understand this refraction stuff. The books all show the light bends down when light from the air enters water ah, change in medium. But when I clean our pool the rod appears to bend up. My Dad is a jock and he says to hunt for fish you throw the spear in front of the fish you see in the water. So what gives here. Doesn't make sense to me that the pole appears to bend up when the books say the light bends down! Confused.
 
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Doesn't make sense to me that the pole appears to bend up when the books say the light bends down! Confused.

Actually those two things are completely consistent. It's best understood by drawing a simple ray diagram. Imagine the path that a ray of light scattered from the tip of the pole will reach your eye. As the ray exits the water it will bend away from the normal and travel toward your eye at a "lower" angle as compared with the angle that it would approach your eye if the light traveled in a straight line. This fools your brain into thinking that the tip of the pole is further forward and at a shallower depth than it really is (hence the pole appears to bend upwards.)

BTW. You'll probably need to try and draw the ray diagram for yourself to really understand what I'm saying. I don't have time to post an image right now.
 
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Ok. I don't understand this refraction stuff. The books all show the light bends down when light from the air enters water ah, change in medium. But when I clean our pool the rod appears to bend up.

The appearance of the rod is due to light from the pole in the water to the air and finally to your eye, which is the opposite direction of travel from what you describe in your second sentence.

Both are described by Snell's law, as uart says.
 
Thanks, I just found a drawing on Wilki, which I'm looking at, I think its what you are saying. Still seems confusing, though. It seems to me the pole appears to be bending up because the light is bedning up rather than down as the books seem to show. Am I a dumb nerd or what? LOL
 
Thanks, I'll look at Snell's law too.
 
No it looks like this. The light bends "downward" as you described, but the apparent position of the tip of the pole appears to be higher than it's actual position making the pole appear to bend upward. The reason for this "apparent" posiiton is that your brain assumes that the light travels in a straight line and therefore assumes that the tip of the pole lies in the direction that the light from that tip is entering the eye. The solid lines shows the actual pole and light ray while the dotted lines show the apparent pole position and the apparent light ray (the one that you brain thinks it should be becuse it assumes a straight path).

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3506/refractioniy9.png
 
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uart Thanks, I'm starting to get it. Guess my brain works backwards. LOL That bit on Wilki on Snell's law with the expanding rings put me in a trance but it finally started to make sense too. This concept is a hard one for me to get my hands around, right now I just want to choke it.
 

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