Refusing to teach creationism in schools is inherently bigotry?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of refusing to teach creationism in schools, with participants debating whether this refusal constitutes bigotry. The conversation touches on the intersection of education, religion, and science, exploring the appropriateness of teaching creationism in various educational contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether refusing to teach creationism in schools is inherently bigotry, suggesting that such a refusal may stem from intolerance.
  • Others argue that creationism is not scientific and therefore does not belong in a science curriculum, asserting that its exclusion is not a matter of bigotry but of educational standards.
  • There are claims that creationism is rooted in religious texts, which complicates its inclusion in public school curricula due to the separation of church and state.
  • Some participants propose that if creationism were to be taught, it should be in a context such as social studies rather than as an alternative to scientific theories.
  • Concerns are raised about the need for sound logical arguments to support the inclusion of creationism in education, with calls for clarity on the rationale behind such proposals.
  • Participants express differing views on the extent of religious education in public schools, with some asserting that it is minimal or non-existent.
  • There are discussions about the potential for hostility towards religious beliefs among those who oppose teaching creationism, with some suggesting that ignorance of faith contributes to this hostility.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether refusing to teach creationism is bigotry. Multiple competing views remain regarding the appropriateness of teaching creationism in schools and the implications of such decisions on religious beliefs.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of defining bigotry in this context and the nuances of educational policy regarding religious content in public schools. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of the First Amendment and its implications for religious education.

  • #31


Nusc said:
Is it not to say that by refusing to teach creationism in schools is inherently bigotry?

Which creation story should we teach in order to avoid bigotry?

Sanema creation story

Muslim creation story

Chinese creation story

Australian aborigine creation story

Humanist creation story

How come the meaning of so many creation stories is that humans should care for the Earth and there's so few creation stories where the meaning is all of the Earth's resources were put there for the pleasure of man?
 
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  • #32


russ_watters said:
The only mandatory religion in US schools is a unit or two on world religions taught in social studies (history) class. It isn't taught as 'here are your options, pick one' or anything - just like we're taught about Naziism, but without the purpose of making us Nazis.

Oh right, so there is some religious education. Admittedly, we probably had a little more, since we had a religious education class, but it was taught with the intention to educate, rather than offer religions to join.
 
  • #33


BobG said:
Which creation story should we teach in order to avoid bigotry?

Sanema creation story

Muslim creation story

Chinese creation story

Australian aborigine creation story

Humanist creation story

How come the meaning of so many creation stories is that humans should care for the Earth and there's so few creation stories where the meaning is all of the Earth's resources were put there for the pleasure of man?
Good point and they all contradict each other in principle.

Argentina passes same-sex marriage:

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/07/15/argentina-same-sex-marriage.html

It's sad that it's the 21st century and this is a problem in society when there are greater issues to deal with. Inherent in the beliefs of monotheistic religions tell you that homosexuality is an abomination.
 
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Is there a point to this thread? 30-odd posts in, I can not discern what that might be. What does same-sex marriage have to do with teaching creationism?
 
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This thread is pointless, the OP has not given enough information to begin a discussion, and now has changed the topic.

Closed.
 

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