Related rates question involving volume of cone

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The discussion focuses on a related rates problem involving the volume of a conical pile of sand, where sand falls at a rate of 10 m³/min. The height of the pile is consistently 3/8ths of the base diameter. The correct formula for the volume of a cone is V = (1/3)πr²h, and the relationship between the radius and height must be accounted for when differentiating. The correct rate of change of the radius (dr/dt) when the pile is 4 m high is determined to be approximately 0.1119 m/sec.

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Sand falls from a conveyor belt at the rate of 10m^3/min onto the top of a conical pile. The height of the pile is always 3/8ths of the base diameter.

How fast is the radius changing when the pile is 4 m high? 3. The Attempt at a Solution

V = pir^2 (4/3) -- volume of a cone

dv/dt = (4pi/3)(2r)(dr/dt)
10 = (4pi/3)(2)(16/3)(dr/dt)
10 = (128pi/9)(dr/dt)
dr/dt = 0.224


The answer is 0.1119 m/sec. What am I doing wrong?
 
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needingtoknow said:

Homework Statement



Sand falls from a conveyor belt at the rate of 10m^3/min onto the top of a conical pile. The height of the pile is always 3/8ths of the base diameter.

How fast is the radius changing when the pile is 4 m high?3. The Attempt at a Solution

V = pir^2 (4/3) -- volume of a cone

You might want to confirm this formula for the volume of a cone. Remember, volume has units of L3, and there are units of L2 here. There is also no accounting for the height of the cone in this formula.
 
The formula is correct I just mislabelled it. I meant to say that V = pir^2 (4/3) -- volume of a cone when h = 4.
 
Might be right (I did not check the prefactor), but the height is not constant. It changes together with r. You cannot consider one change and ignore the other one.
 
needingtoknow said:
The formula is correct I just mislabelled it. I meant to say that V = pir^2 (4/3) -- volume of a cone when h = 4.

The volume of a cone is ##V=\frac 1 3 \pi r^2 h##. You must avoid putting in the instantaneous values before you differentiate to get the related rates equation.
 

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