Relation between statistics and theoretical physics

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between statistics, probability theory, and theoretical physics. Participants explore the role of statistical methods in theoretical research, particularly in the context of statistical physics and its broader implications within the field of physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the relationship between statistics and theoretical physics, seeking to understand its role beyond probabilistic amplitudes in quantum mechanics.
  • Another participant notes that in statistical physics, exact answers are often unattainable for large systems, leading to a focus on average behavior.
  • There is a discussion about the potential misunderstanding of the term "theoretical physics," with one participant suggesting that it encompasses all areas of physics, including applied physics, and not just advanced topics like string theory or elementary particles.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether the original question pertains to "statistical analysis" as a methodology rather than the broader subject area of statistical physics.
  • Clarifications about terminology arise, with one participant indicating that they meant "statistical math along the probability theory," which may differ from the initial interpretation of the question.

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Participants express differing views on the clarity of the original question and the definitions of terms used, indicating that there is no consensus on the relationship between statistics and theoretical physics or the intent behind the inquiry.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of "theoretical physics" and "statistical analysis," which may affect the clarity and direction of the conversation.

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Hi at all, maybe it's a bit trivial. However, the question that i ask myself is ; that relation there is between statistics-probab theory & theoretical physics. What role does it play in theoretical research ?

(apart from the probabilistic amplitudes encountered in qm)

Thanks for the answers
 
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Statistical physics. For any sufficiently big system, exact answers are impossible and one cannily can only calculate the behaviour of the system on average.
 
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DrClaude said:
and one cannily calculate
lovely typo.(?)
North East England dialect word meaning various things - including 'cleverly' :smile:
 
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Jianphys17 said:
Hi at all, maybe it's a bit trivial. However, the question that i ask myself is ; that relation there is between statistics-probab theory & theoretical physics. What role does it play in theoretical research ?

(apart from the probabilistic amplitudes encountered in qm)

Thanks for the answers

First of all, I see a lot of possibility that there is a misunderstanding here, both on your part, and on my part in reading this.

The reason for this is that I have found that a lot of people don't quite have a clear idea of what is "theoretical physics", confusing it with being confined to just "String, GUT, TOE, elementary particles". In reality, "theoretical physics" is actually a vague area, because ANY area of physics, including "applied" ones, have theoretical components. This means that "statistical physics" can also already be a subset of this "theoretical physics", which makes the question rather puzzling. It is like asking if the aorta valve has any role to play in the human body. So this is something I am not sure that everyone who brings up the phrase "theoretical physics" is aware of.

Secondly, upon re-read your post, I am wondering if you actually mean "statistical analysis", i.e. the methodology, rather than the subject area.

Without a clear idea of the actual question and the actual intent of the question, I don't know if any clear answer can be given.

Zz.
 
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sophiecentaur said:
lovely typo.(?)
North East England dialect word meaning various things - including 'cleverly' :smile:
Arg, darn autocorrect (and me typing too fast, not hitting the keys in the right order). That should have been "can only".
 
ZapperZ said:
First of all, I see a lot of possibility that there is a misunderstanding here, both on your part, and on my part in reading this.

The reason for this is that I have found that a lot of people don't quite have a clear idea of what is "theoretical physics", confusing it with being confined to just "String, GUT, TOE, elementary particles". In reality, "theoretical physics" is actually a vague area, because ANY area of physics, including "applied" ones, have theoretical components. This means that "statistical physics" can also already be a subset of this "theoretical physics", which makes the question rather puzzling. It is like asking if the aorta valve has any role to play in the human body. So this is something I am not sure that everyone who brings up the phrase "theoretical physics" is aware of.

Secondly, upon re-read your post, I am wondering if you actually mean "statistical analysis", i.e. the methodology, rather than the subject area.

Without a clear idea of the actual question and the actual intent of the question, I don't know if any clear answer can be given.

Zz.
Oh, sorry, for statistics, i mean Statistical math along the probability theory ..
 
DrClaude said:
Arg, darn autocorrect (and me typing too fast, not hitting the keys in the right order). That should have been "can only".
A real 'monkeys and typewriters' one. How nice.
 
sophiecentaur said:
A real 'monkeys and typewriters' one. How nice.
o_O:DD
 

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