Relation for Kinetic energy and the lorentz factor.

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The original poster is tasked with finding a relation for kinetic energy as a function of the Lorentz factor, denoted as KE(gamma). The problem is situated within the context of relativistic physics, specifically involving the concepts of energy and the Lorentz factor.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to manipulate the total energy equation to express kinetic energy in terms of the Lorentz factor, but encounters difficulties in eliminating mass from the equation. Some participants question the role of mass and constants in the relationship, while others suggest that the problem may be fundamentally flawed if it seeks a solution independent of mass.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the constants involved, and there is a recognition of the complexities introduced by the mass of the particle.

Contextual Notes

There is a suggestion that the problem may be impossible to solve as stated, given the need for mass or energy to distinguish between different particles with the same Lorentz factor.

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Homework Statement



I have to find a relation for kinetic energy as a function of the lorentz factor, KE(gamma). It can only depend on the lorentz factor or on a constant.

Homework Equations



E_{tot} = \gamma m_{0} c^{2}

E_{tot} = KE + m_{0}c^{2} = \sqrt{p^{2}c^{2} + m_{0}c^{4}}

\gamma = \sqrt{1 + \frac{v^{2}}{c^2}}

The Attempt at a Solution



I thought that the best place to start would be:

E_{tot} = KE +m_{0}c^{2}

KE = E_{tot} - m_{0}c^{2}

Also I know that

E_{tot} = \gamma m_{0}c^{2}

Substituting this in I get:

KE = \gamma m_{0}c^{2} - m_{0}c^{2}

I'm now not sure how to carry on, to get rid of the masses from the equation. Everything I try to do to remove them causes me to have another variable, like energy to then get rid of.

Any suggestions, pointers or help would be greatly appreciated, I've been stuck on this problem for 12 hours now!
 
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The Lorentz Factor I know is given by,

\gamma = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-\beta^2}} where \beta = v/c

At any rate, aren't m0 and c just constants?
 
kreil's right. There has to be some property of the particle involved, like mass or energy, because otherwise what would distinguish, say, an electron from a proton? They could both have the same Lorentz factor but their kinetic energies would be vastly different.

If the problem really asks you to find an expression for the kinetic energy in terms of \gamma and fundamental constants only (like the speed of light), then you can go right back to your instructor and tell him/her that it's an impossible problem.
 
Sorry, I meant 1/... for the Lorentz factor, typed it out wrong.

Ah, ok, I wasn't thinking of mass as a constant, I see now. Thanks!
 

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