Relationship Between Kinetic Friction and Mechanical Energy

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between kinetic friction and mechanical energy, specifically evaluating statements about the effects of friction on a system's energy. Participants are examining the correctness of various statements regarding kinetic and static friction.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are exploring the implications of kinetic and static friction on mechanical energy, questioning the validity of multiple statements. They are attempting to identify which statements may be incorrect based on their understanding of friction's role in energy transfer.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning the correctness of their interpretations and the feedback from an online homework program. Some participants are considering specific scenarios to clarify the concepts involved, while others are reflecting on the implications of friction in various contexts.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of an online homework program that has deemed the answer "all of the above" as incorrect, leading to confusion among participants regarding which statement is the outlier. Participants are also discussing specific scenarios involving kinetic friction and its effects on mechanical energy.

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Homework Statement


Which of the following statements about friction is correct?
I. Kinetic friction always decreases the mechanical energy of a system.
II. The static friction force cannot change the mechanical energy of a system.
III. The force of friction always points in the direction opposite to the way that a system moves.
None of the statements is correct.
Statement III only
Statements I & II only
Statement II only
Statements I & III only
Statements II & III only
Statement I only.
All three statements.




Homework Equations


W = F * D
Mechanical Energy = KE + Ug


The Attempt at a Solution



I cannot find the culprit. All appear to be correct and I cannot form any counter-examples. Kinetic friction is a non-conservative force, so it must decrease the mechanical energy of a system where friction is present. Static friction does not do work, so it must not affect the mechanical energy of a system. For the third; I cannot imagine a system in which friction points in the direction of motion. Kinetic friction is caused by this motion.
 
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So you think that the answer is "all of the above?"

So what's the problem? Have you been told that this answer is incorrect?
 
Exactly. All of the above was taken as incorrect by the online homework program I am using. I am now stumped as to which one is the odd problem out.
 
Hmm, okay, let's think this through.

If I push a box across a flat surface at a constant speed, is the mechanical energy of the box changing? Is kinetic friction present?
 
There would be a change in kinetic energy but no change in potential energy. When pushing a box across a floor with friction, kinetic energy is lost to the frictional force which runs parallel to the direction of motion?
 
velouria131 said:
There would be a change in kinetic energy but no change in potential energy. When pushing a box across a floor with friction, kinetic energy is lost to the frictional force which runs parallel to the direction of motion?

No, pay closer attention to the scenario I am proposing:

cepheid said:
Hmm, okay, let's think this through.

If I push a box across a flat surface at a constant speed, is the mechanical energy of the box changing? Is kinetic friction present?
 
Actually let's consider a couple of other situations:

1. Walking
2. A car moving down a road.

For situation 2, what direction does the frictional force from the road ON the tires point? What direction does the system move?

For both situations: is the friction causing the mechanical energy of the system to decrease?
 

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