Relationship between linear and rotational kinetic energy

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between translational and rotational kinetic energy for a solid disk rolling without slipping. Participants are exploring how to express the ratio of these two forms of kinetic energy based on the disk's mass, radius, and velocity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss breaking down the total kinetic energy equation into translational and rotational components. There are attempts to simplify the expressions and find the ratio of translational to rotational kinetic energy. Questions are raised about how to express angular velocity in terms of linear velocity.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between the two types of kinetic energy and suggested methods for simplification. There is an ongoing exploration of the algebraic relationships involved, with no explicit consensus reached on the final ratio.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the disk rolls without slipping, which influences the relationships between the variables involved. There is mention of a known correct answer, but the discussion remains focused on the derivation process.

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Homework Statement


Consider a solid disk of mass m and radius R rolling along a horizontal surface with the center of the disk moving horizontally with a speed v. The total kinetic energy of the disk is a combination of translational kinetic energy , KEt and rotational kinetic energy, KEr. Find the ration KEt/KEr



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I basically broke down the equations into their simplest forms to try to find the relationship. So
E = 1/2mv^2 + 1/2IW^2
E = 1/2mv^2 + 1/2 (1/2mR^2)w^2
E = 1/2mv^2 + 1/4mR^2 * W^2
I am really not sure how to how about solving this problem. I know I could make up some imaginary numbers for the variables and just guess and check for the relationship but I would prefer to solve this algebraically. The correct answer is 2.
 
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You are after the translational and rotational kinetic energies (or rather, their ratio), not the total kinetic energy.

What is the ratio? How can you simplify it?
 
Using the fact that the disk does not slip or travels in a 'pure roll', you can substitute for ##\omega## in terms of other variables. Then take the ratio.
 
Orodruin said:
You are after the translational and rotational kinetic energies (or rather, their ratio), not the total kinetic energy.

What is the ratio? How can you simplify it?

OK so I figured it out by breaking down the velocity into its parts. So
E = 1/2mv^2 + 1/4mR^2 * W^2
E = 1/2m(Rw)2 + 1/4mR^2 *w^2
E = 1/2 mR^2 * w^2 + 1/4mR^2 * w^2
Since everything in the translational and rotational kinetic energies is the same except 1/2 and 1/4 I can conclude that the translational kinetic energy is twice as big as the rotational kinetic energy. What was your approach?
 
Correct. There really is not much more to it.
 

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