Relationship between Polarizing Angle and Angle of internal reflection

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the polarizing angle and the critical angle for total internal reflection in a specific substance, with the critical angle given as 58.0°. Participants explore the calculations and concepts involved in determining the polarizing angle.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formulas related to the index of refraction and the relationship between the polarizing angle and critical angle. There are attempts to clarify the conditions under which the polarizing angle is defined, particularly regarding the direction of light incidence.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's calculations and questioning the assumptions made regarding the direction of light. Some participants express confusion about the original poster's results and the implications of using different values for the indices of refraction.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted ambiguity regarding whether the polarizing angle is being calculated for light incident from outside the material or from within it, which affects the interpretation of the results. Participants are also addressing the potential for different outcomes based on the conditions of light incidence.

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Homework Statement


The critical angle for total internal reflection for a substance is 58.0°. What is the polarizing angle for this substance?


Homework Equations


Index of refraction: n = 1 / sin(θ_{c})

and n = tan (θ_{p})


The Attempt at a Solution

So I plugged in the numbers for the desired angles and came to the final formula of:

Polarizing Angle = tan ^{-1} (n)

which equals to about 49.7°, but I get that as the wrong answer. I really don't know the true relationship between the polarizing angle and critical angle of total internal reflection. Can someone please help me in that area and see where I went wrong with my calculations?
 
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Your answer looks correct to me (assuming that the polarizing angle is for light incident on the material from the outside).
 
TSny said:
Your answer looks correct to me (assuming that the polarizing angle is for light incident on the material from the outside).

I agree, without adding the qualification which I don't understand. (Can you get a polarizing angle going from a denser to a less dense medium?).
 
Hi! Thanks for your guy's replies to my question. I was lucky to find out that I used the formulas incorrectly, and therefore, got the wrong answer. I was able to find the correct one and properly use it to get the right answer this time around. Thanks once again!
 
rude man said:
(Can you get a polarizing angle going from a denser to a less dense medium?).

Yes, you just need to satisfy tan(θ1) = n2/n1. n2 can be greater or less than n1.
 
TSny said:
Yes, you just need to satisfy tan(θ1) = n2/n1. n2 can be greater or less than n1.

OK.
Can you figure out what we did wrong? The OP says he got it right after modifying his computations ... ?
 
rude man said:
Can you figure out what we did wrong? The OP says he got it right after modifying his computations ... ?

Nope, beats me!
 
rude man said:
OK.
Can you figure out what we did wrong? The OP says he got it right after modifying his computations ... ?

I was able to find another resource that was similar to my problem and was able to solve it by using snell's law under critical angle conditions:

n_{1}sinθ_{c} = n_{2}

and Snell's law under polarization conditions:

n_{1}sinθ_{p} = n_{2}cosθ_{p}

which simplified down to tanθ_{p} = \frac{n_{2}}{n_{1}}

Setting them to equation 1 & 2, and then plugging first equation into 2nd I was able to get the right answer from that.
 
Did you use the same value of n1 in both equations and the same value of n2 in both equations? If so, then the question must have wanted you to find the polarization angle θp for the case where the light is starting out inside the material.
 
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TSny said:
Did you use the same value of n1 in both equations and the same value of n2 in both equations? If so, then the question must have wanted you to find the polarization angle θp for the case where the light is starting out inside the material.

Yes, I used the same values of n1 and n2 for both.
 
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OK, thanks. That accounts for why rude man and I were getting a different result. Usually when you speak of the polarizing angle for a substance, such as glass, it is assumed that you are considering light incident on the glass (from air, say). But your question was apparently asking for the polarizing angle for light internally reflecting inside the glass.
 

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