Relationship Between Triangles and Straight Angles

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between triangles, straight angles, and circles, particularly focusing on the sum of the angles in a triangle and its implications in both Euclidean and non-Euclidean geometries.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the sum of the angles in a triangle equals 180 degrees, which is also the measure of a straight angle and half a full revolution.
  • Another participant explains that this relationship holds true in Euclidean geometry but not in non-Euclidean geometries, where the sum of angles can exceed 180 degrees.
  • A third participant emphasizes the need to clarify that the discussion pertains to two-dimensional, flat triangles, reinforcing the 180-degree sum of angles.
  • A later reply describes a method of demonstrating the angle sum property by drawing a line parallel to one side of the triangle, illustrating the relationship between the angles formed and the triangle's angles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the properties of triangles in Euclidean geometry, but there is acknowledgment of differing behaviors in non-Euclidean contexts, indicating multiple competing views on the broader implications of the triangle's angle sum.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the implications of these geometric properties in different contexts, nor does it clarify the limitations of the definitions used, particularly regarding the nature of triangles in various geometries.

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My girlfriend is re-learning geometry. She has noticed that the sum of the angles of a triangle is equal to the measure of a straight angle and half the measure of a full revolution. She wants me to ask if there is any special relationship between a triangle and a straight angle or between a triangle and a circle that accounts for these similarities. I have no idea what to tell her, as I've never even thought of this sort of question before.
 
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It follows from the postulates of Euclidean geometry. It isn't true in non-Euclidean geometries. If you draw a triangle on the surface of a sphere the sum of its interior angles is greater than 180°. Specifically it follows from the postulate that only one line through a given point can be drawn parallel to a given line and the equality of alternate interior angles when two parallel lines are cut by a transversal.
 
Hey, darkchild, I am not sure but I get the feeling that you are asking a rather basic question and I feel like LCKurtz's answer might have implicitly answered your question and gone beyond it, so I am not sure is clear enough...so, allow me to explicitly mention a couple of things:

First, let's agree that we are talking about what most of us call triangles...those 3-sided figures that one can draw on a board or piece of paper, in other words, they are 2 dimensional, flat surfaces.

So, if you take the 3 angles inside a triangle and you add them up...they always add up to 180 degrees.

So, if you have a rectangular triangle where you know on of the angles is 90 deg, then necessarily the other two angles add up to 90, too, of course.
 
Start with any triangle and, at one vertex, draw a line parallel to the opposite side. The two sides of the triangle at that vertex form three angles with the parallel line. One of those angles, the middle one, is an angle in the triangle. The other two are "congruent" to the two base angles of the triangle because they are "alternate interior angles" on line intersecting both parallel lines. Thus, the measures of the three angles in the triangle add to the same as the three angles at the parallel line.
 

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