Relative humidity of the air entering a compressor

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The discussion revolves around calculating the relative humidity of air entering a compressor, given specific inlet and outlet conditions. Participants explore the methodology for determining both the flow rate of air and the corresponding humidity levels, incorporating principles of thermodynamics and the use of dew-point charts.

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Main Points Raised

  • The initial post presents a calculation for the flow rate of air entering the compressor and requests assistance in determining the relative humidity.
  • One participant attempts to calculate the relative humidity using dew-point charts and provides a detailed method, arriving at a relative humidity of 38.6%.
  • Another participant questions the interpretation of the air flow rate, initially misreading it as cubic feet per minute before correcting it to cubic meters per minute.
  • A later reply introduces the concept of an adiabatic process and references the equation ##pv^\gamma = const##, although it is unclear if this is applicable to the current scenario.
  • There is mention of similar threads that may provide additional context, but their correctness is not guaranteed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the interpretation of the problem and the calculations involved. There is no consensus on the correctness of the relative humidity calculation or the applicability of the adiabatic process to this scenario.

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Participants rely on dew-point charts for moisture content calculations, which may introduce limitations based on the accuracy of the charts and the assumptions made regarding saturation conditions. The discussion also highlights potential confusion regarding units of measurement.

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Homework Statement


Air is drawn into a compressor at normal temperature and pressure (N.T.P.) and compressed to a pressure of 6 bar gauge. After compression the air is delivered at 1.2m3 min–1 and cooled to a temperature of 30°C, at which point condensate is collected at the rate of 2 litres per hour. Estimate the FAD (N.T.P.) of the compressor, and the relative humidity of the air entering the compressor.

Homework Equations


P1 * V1 / T1 = P2 * V2 / T2

The Attempt at a Solution



Inlet conditions
P1 = 1.013 Bar abs
T1 = 15°C = 288.15°K

Outlet conditions
P2 = 6 Bar + 1.013 bar = 7.013 bar abs
V2 = 1.2m3 min-1
T2 = 30°C = 303.15°K

P1*V1/T1 = P2*V2/T2

V1 = P2*T1V2 / P1*T2
V1 = 6 * 288.15 * 1.2 / 1.013 * 303.15

V1 = 7.9m3 min-1 FAD (NTP)


Can anyone help me with calculating the relative humidity of the air entering the compressor?
 
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Ive had a go at Calculating the Relative Humidity (RH). Have I used the correct method to calculate RH?Inlet conditions
7.9m3 min-1 * 60 = 474m3 / hour

Using a Dew-point Chart (at 1.013 bar) to find the amount of moisture present in saturated air at 15°C = 12.5 g

Saturation Quantity = 12.5g * 474m3 / hour = 5925 g / hourOutput conditions
1.2m3 min-1 * 60 = 72m3 / hour

Using a pressure Dew-point Chart (at 7.013 bar abs) to find the amount of moisture present in saturated air at 30°C = 4 g

Saturation Quantity = 4g * 72m3 / hour = 288 g / hour

Absolute Humidity = 288g + 2000g = 2288 g / hour

Relative Humidity = (2288 / 5925) * 100 = 38.6%
 
I read this as saying that hot air exits the compressor at 1.2 cu ft/min. CORRECTION: 1.2 m3/min. Then after this it is cooled to 30°C. Do you think this is what it's saying?

For an adiabatic process, I think you also have ##pv^\gamma##=const
but whether you need to apply that here I can't say. (I have not dealt with thermodynamics of fluids since I was a student.)

Have you looked at the similar threads listed at the foot of this page? There's no guarantee they are automatically correct, of couse.
 
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NascentOxygen said:
I read this as saying that hot air exits the compressor at 1.2 cu ft/min. Then after this it is cooled to 30°C. Do you think this is what it's saying?
cubic meters per minute. Big difference.
 
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