# Relative motion with angular velocity

1. Sep 16, 2012

### theBEAST

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

3. The attempt at a solution
Do note I switched up the i, j and k vectors.

I am getting half the answer correct. -7.2 is correct according to the answer key but my other solution -3.24 is clearly wrong. Does anyone know what I did wrong? I tried to be neat as possible, if anyone is not able to follow please ask me about what I did.

Thanks!

2. Sep 16, 2012

### klawlor419

Check your initial vectors defining the points A and D in the problem. Your vectors don't match with the picture defining the problem. So the components your getting are likely wrong.

3. Sep 16, 2012

### theBEAST

Where did I make the mistake :S I don't see why A and D are wrong.

4. Sep 16, 2012

### klawlor419

Look at the x-y-z axes in the picture you drew by hand and the axes in original picture of the problem! And remember that rotation is about the diagonal, connecting the ball bearings and that v = ω cross r

This should be enough to solve the problem

5. Sep 16, 2012

### theBEAST

Okay I just redid it with
A = (0, 0.12, 0.09)
D = (0.2, 0 , 0)
A-D = (-0.2, 0.12, 0.09)
unit_vector_A-D = (-0.8, 0.48, 0.36)

Then I repeated the steps I took in the Relative Motion section of my answer and I got the same thing except this time I had -3.24i -7.2k. I think maybe my r_B/C vector is wrong? I am not sure.

So I switched the axis so it would match with the question but it seems like it doesn't matter.

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6. Sep 16, 2012

### klawlor419

Try this, so you now have the vector w determined. Ok good, now calculate the distance if point B off the axis of rotation. Now take the cross product. Don't worry about relative velocity, I don't think this problem needs to consider that.

7. Sep 16, 2012

### theBEAST

Thanks! I was able to solve this problem by finding that vector from B to the axis of rotation and then taking this vector (r) and crossing it with the angular velocity vector w.

Does anyone know where I can learn about v = w x r? I am still a bit confused about why you use the cross product in this equation. These concepts are new to me and are concepts I must learn on my own. I tried to find a good explanation in the textbook but with no success.

8. Sep 16, 2012

### klawlor419

Wikipedia has a decent article on cross products. Taylors Classical mechanics is good too