Relative Velocity of Ball on Moving Board

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the velocity of a ball rolling on a moving board, with specific velocities given for both the ball and the board in different directions. The context is rooted in relative velocity concepts within physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of vector diagrams and trigonometry to resolve the velocities into components. There is uncertainty regarding the interpretation of the board's direction, specifically the notation used for angles.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the direction of the board's velocity and expressing confusion about the original poster's calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the notation of angles, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is ambiguity in the direction of the board's velocity, with participants questioning the standard notation used to describe it. The original poster's calculations have been challenged, but no specific errors have been identified yet.

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Homework Statement


A ball rolls with a velocity of 14 mm/s [W] on a board that is being pulled [E 60o N] at 20.0 mm/s. What is the velocity of the ball relative to the floor?

b = ball
x = board
f = floor

Homework Equations


V_bf = V_bx + V_xf

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to work through this question by drawing it on a Cartesian grid and by drawing out the vectors. I used trigonometry on the triangle to figure out the component of V_xf horizontally, and then plugging V_xf into the V_bf = V_bx + V_xf equation. The answer I got was 4 mm/s W, but is was incorrect. I am not sure where I went wrong.
 
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Dffgsadf said:
I am not sure where I went wrong.
Strangely, neither am I. Why might that be?
 
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Dffgsadf said:

Homework Statement


A ball rolls with a velocity of 14 mm/s [W] on a board that is being pulled [E 60o N] at 20.0 mm/s. What is the velocity of the ball relative to the floor?

b = ball
x = board
f = floor

Homework Equations


V_bf = V_bx + V_xf

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to work through this question by drawing it on a Cartesian grid and by drawing out the vectors. I used trigonometry on the triangle to figure out the component of V_xf horizontally, and then plugging V_xf into the V_bf = V_bx + V_xf equation. The answer I got was 4 mm/s W, but is was incorrect. I am not sure where I went wrong.
The velocity vector has both westward and northward components.
Do you mean 60° East of North as the direction of velocity of the board?
 
60 degrees east of north would be written as N60E. E60N is not a standard notation ("standard notation" goes from N or S first) but I would interpret it as "60 degrees north of east" which would be the same as "30 degrees east of north" or N30E. If you want someone to explain "what you did wrong", you will have to tell us what you did!
 

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