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The discussion centers on the relativistic addition of velocities, specifically addressing the scenario where observer A measures two objects, B and C, moving at 0.8c in opposite directions. The key conclusion is that while the separation rate between B and C appears to exceed the speed of light (1.6c) in frame A, the individual velocities of B and C never exceed c due to the relativistic velocity addition formula. The formula used is u' = (u - v) / (1 - uv/c²), which correctly accounts for relativistic effects. The impact between B and C, while observed differently in various frames, does not result in any individual speed exceeding c.

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And now I'm thinking I was overthinking this, and that it should just be ##\phi## every time:

## \vec f = \dfrac{m}{\cosh{\phi}} \, \dfrac{d}{d \tau} \left( \sinh{\phi} \, \hat{v} \right) = m \left( \dfrac{d \phi}{d \tau} \hat{v} + v \dfrac{d \hat{v}}{d \tau}
\right).##

## \vec f_{\parallel \vec v} = m \left[ \left( \dfrac{d \phi}{d \tau} \hat{v} \right)_{\parallel \vec v} + \left( v \dfrac{d \hat{v}}{d \tau} \right)_{\parallel \vec v} \right]##

## \vec f_{\parallel \vec v} = m \left( \dfrac{d \phi}{d \tau} \hat{v} + \vec 0 \right), ##

so:

##f_{\parallel \vec v} = m \dfrac{d \phi}{d \tau},##

invariant under a boost in the ##\pm \hat{v}## direction (though in general ##\hat{v}## may rotate as the force is applied).

If that's right, then I guess I was getting myself confused earlier by the fact that ##\Delta \phi## isn't in the ##\pm \hat{v}## direction. That felt off (still kind of does).
 
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SiennaTheGr8 said:
If that's right, then I guess I was getting myself confused earlier by the fact that ##\Delta \phi## isn't in the ##\pm \hat{v}## direction. That felt off (still kind of does).

And now I'm very confident that it's right. The key point is that ##\vec v## is (at least) momentarily parallel to the boost axis, and so the infinitesimal ##d \phi## is indeed invariant under a collinear boost. Nothing feels off anymore, and I was wrong to bring the component ##\phi_{\parallel \vec v}## into this at all.

(Sorry if I've derailed the thread. That's my last word on this unless someone responds.)
 

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