Relativistic Doppler Effect and a Baseball

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The discussion centers on calculating the speed of a baseball using the relativistic Doppler effect, specifically addressing a scenario where a radar device measures the frequency shift of electromagnetic waves reflected from a moving baseball. The fractional frequency shift is given as \(\frac{\Delta f}{f_0} = 2.88 \times 10^{-7}\). The correct formula to determine the baseball's speed is \(\frac{\Delta f}{f_0} = \frac{u}{c}\), where \(u\) is the speed of the baseball and \(c\) is the speed of light. Participants clarified the need to account for the double Doppler shift in their calculations.

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[SOLVED] Relativistic Doppler Effect and a Baseball

Homework Statement



A baseball coach uses a radar device to measure the speed of an approaching pitched baseball. This device sends out electromagnetic waves with frequency f_0 and then measures the shift in frequency \Delta f of the waves reflected from the moving baseball.

If the fractional frequency shift produced by a baseball is \frac{\Delta f}{f_0} 2.88×10−7, what is the baseball's speed? (Hint: Are the waves Doppler-shifted a second time when reflected off the ball?)

Homework Equations



u = \frac{c((\frac{\delta f}{f_0})^2) - 1}{\frac{\delta f}{f_0})^2 + 1}

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried putting the variables in, but becasue there is a double doppler shift, the asnwer was incorrect. Was is the best way to do this question when a Double Shift occurs?

Any ideas gratly appreciated,

TFM

Edit: in the formulas, that should be a big Delta not a small Delta, Sorry
 
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If the DELf given is actually twice the doppler shift we're interested in... then what DELf should we use?
 
Would it be half?

TFM
 
exactly
 
When I enter it into the equation, it just seems to spit out the speed of Light...?

TFM
 
You're equation might not be quite right...

namely: where you have Delf / f; i think it should be (observed f) / (source f).
Del f / f = (source f - observed f) / (source f)

.. try it the other?
 
I was using the wrong formula :bugeye:

The equation to use is:

\frac{\Delta f}{f_0} = \frac{u}{c}

Thanks for the assistance, lzkelley, :smile:

TFM
 

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