Relativistic Kinetic energy, momentum, speed.

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The problem involves an electron being accelerated to a total energy of 30 MeV, and participants are discussing how to calculate its kinetic energy, momentum, and speed using relativistic concepts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate kinetic energy by converting energy units and applying the mass-energy equivalence principle. They express uncertainty about their approach to finding momentum and speed.
  • Some participants question the necessity of converting energy to Joules and suggest using keV and fractions of the speed of light instead.
  • Others provide insights into the relationships between total energy, rest mass energy, and kinetic energy, as well as the energy-momentum relation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on the relationships between energy and momentum. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's calculations, and suggestions for alternative approaches are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of relativistic physics, including the use of different energy units and the implications for calculations involving speed and momentum. The original poster's uncertainty about their method indicates a need for further clarification on these concepts.

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Homework Statement



An Electron (rest mass=9.11*10^-31kg) is accelerated to an energy (mass energy+kinetic energy) of 30*10^6 eV (30 MeV). What is its kinetic energy? Its momentum? Its speed?
(Note: 1 eV = 1.602*10^-19 Joules; c=2.998 * 10^8 ms^-1)

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Okay, so this problem was on a test that I missed and I have been trying to understand it/figure it out since then. I solved for Ek (kinetic energy) I believe. (Em= Mass energy; Ek = Kinetic Energy)
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Em + Ek = (3*10^6 eV)* ((1.602*10^-19 J)/(1eV))
=4.806 * 10^-13 J here I converted to Joules.

Then I solved for Em
Em = mc^2
=(9.11*10^-31 kg)(2.998 * 10^8 m*s^-1)^2
=8.188*10^-14 J

So, plugging into Em + Ek = 4.806*10^-13 J and rearranging to solve for Ek i get
Ek= 4.806*10^-13 J - Em
Ek= 4.806*10^-13 J - 8.188*10^-14 J
Ek= 3.9872 * 10^-13 J
I'm not too sure if I found Ek the accurate way.
Now, if I did, I'm a little lost in how to find my momentum and speed.
I know momentum is p = ymv = mv/(sqrt(1-(v/v)^2)) with y being gamma
and I believe after using that to find my momentum I can find velocity by rearranging the Ek equation of
Ek = (1/2)mv^2 to v= sqrt(2Ek/m)

Im just not sure if I'm heading in the right direction. A little guidance would be truly appreciated. Also, I wasn't sure where to post this question.
 
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Not a lot of point converting to Joules: you are just making work for yourself and adding a way to make mistakes.
What is wrong with all energies in keV and speeds as a fraction of the speed of light.

Thus total energy E is given by: ##E = \gamma E_0## ... E0 is the rest mass energy of an electron - which is 0.511 keV or 0.000511MeV and gamma is given by ##\gamma=(1-v^2)^{-1/2}##, with v as the fraction of the speed of light.

Kinetic energy T is then: ##T=E-E_0## and the energy-momentum relation is: ##E^2-E_0^2+p^2##

But otherwise you did OK: KE is the difference between total and rest energy.
Momentum is found from the energy-momentum relation.
You can use the equation above for unified units, for SI units it becomes:
$$E^2=E_0^2+p^2c^2$$
 
Agh, yes I see. Thank you so much!
 
NO worries, welcome to PF.
 

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