Relativistic Velocity: Can I Run Faster Than Light?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of relativistic velocity, specifically whether a person running inside a spaceship traveling at or near the speed of light would exceed the speed of light. The scope includes theoretical implications of special relativity and the addition of velocities in relativistic contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if running from the back to the front of a spaceship traveling at light speed would result in exceeding light speed.
  • Another participant asserts that, from the Earth frame, the velocity would always be measured as less than the speed of light.
  • A different participant introduces the relativistic velocity addition formula, emphasizing that velocities cannot simply be added at high speeds and provides a simplified version of the formula for clarity.
  • Another participant reiterates the impossibility of traveling at the speed of light, suggesting that only massless particles, like photons, can achieve that speed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that one cannot exceed the speed of light, but there is some debate regarding the implications of running within a spaceship traveling at relativistic speeds and the application of the velocity addition formula.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the limitations of classical velocity addition at relativistic speeds and the necessity of using the relativistic formula, but does not resolve the nuances of how these concepts apply in specific scenarios.

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I would have another question. If I travel at the speed of light (or 99.9999999999...% of the speed of light) in a spaceship and i begin to run from the back of the spaceship to the front in direction of the spaceship movement, will I be moving faster than the speed of light?
 
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Nope.
As measured from the Earth frame (in which the spacecraft has the velocity indicated), you'd be measured to have a velocity strictly below c.
 
You cannot just add velocities to get total velocity. Use:
w = (u + v)/ (1 + uv/c2)
If you define all the velocities in terms of light speed by dividing each one by “c” the formula is simpler and becomes:

w = (u + v)/ (1 + uv)

You’re more accustomed to living and working with speeds less than 0.0005
Where doubling that speed gives you
.001 / 1.00000025

You’ve just never needed the accuracy of dividing by such a small number at those small speeds. And just used the .001 part or (u + v).

But as one of the speeds becomes high, say above .25
Then using the whole formula and dividing becomes important.
 
profilexis said:
I would have another question. If I travel at the speed of light (or 99.9999999999...% of the speed of light) in a spaceship and i begin to run from the back of the spaceship to the front in direction of the spaceship movement, will I be moving faster than the speed of light?
The ... means the 9's go on forever? That means you are traveling exactly the speed of light. This is impossible, unless, like a photon, you have zero mass.
 

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