Removing The Dielectric From A Parallel Plate Capacitor

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The discussion revolves around a parallel-plate capacitor with a dielectric material partially filling the gap between the plates. The capacitor's configuration includes two square plates separated by a gap, with one half filled with a dielectric of constant K = 3.40 and the other half filled with air. Participants explore the capacitance and energy stored in the capacitor under different conditions, including the removal of the dielectric.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the effective capacitance of the system as a combination of two capacitors in parallel, one with a dielectric and one without. There is uncertainty regarding the impact of removing the dielectric on the voltage and energy stored. Some participants suggest considering charge conservation when analyzing the system after the dielectric is removed.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and questioning assumptions about the behavior of the capacitor when the dielectric is removed. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of the capacitors as separate entities and the implications for voltage and energy calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding how the removal of the dielectric affects the voltage across the capacitors and the energy stored, particularly in the context of charge conservation. There is an acknowledgment that the capacitors are physically connected, which complicates the assumptions about voltage changes.

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Homework Statement


Consider a parallel-plate capacitor, with two square plates of side \mathrm{12.0 cm} separated by a \mathrm{4.50- mm} gap. Half of the space between the gaps is filled with a material of dielectric constant \mathrm{K = 3.40}, while the rest is filled with just air.
(a) What is the capacitance, in \mathrm{pF}, of this configuration?
(b) An 18.0V battery is connected across the plates. How much energy is stored in the capacitor?
(c) The dielectric is now removed from the gap, and nothing else is changed. How much energy is now stored in the capacitor

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
The space is filled with a dielectric in such a way that it is equivalent to two parallel plate capacitors connected in parallel.

I am assuming K_{air} = 1

Parts A and B are fine, so I haven't shown my working in detail here. I will if that will help the discussion of part c.

(a) C = \frac{k \epsilon_{0} A}{d}

For 'capacitor 1' (with dielectric) C_{1} = 4.82 \times 10^{-11} \mathrm{F}

For 'capacitor 2' (without dielectric) C_{2} = 1.42 \times 10^{-11} \mathrm{F}

The effective capacitance of these, is simply their sum.

C_{eff} = C_{1} + C_{2} = 6.24 \times 10^{-11} \mathrm{F} = 62.4 \mathrm{pF}

(b) The energy stored in this capacitor is U = \frac{1}{2}C_{eff} V^2 = 1.01 \times 10^-8 \mathrm{J}

(c) I am unsure of, but this is what I've been thinking:

Removing the dielectric from C_{1} increases the electric field, and thus the voltage also increases.

The voltage increases by a factor of \mathrm{k} = 3.4 to a new value of \mathrm{V} = 61.2 \mathrm{V}.

C_{1} = \frac{\epsilon_{0} 7.2 \times 10^{-3}}{0.0045} 1.42 \times 10^{-11} \mathrm{F}

I think this makes sense, as this is the same as the air filled capacitor.

The new effective capacitance is C_{eff} = C_{1} + C_{2} = 2.84 \times 10^{-11} \mathrm{F} = 28.4\mathrm{pF}

This is the step I'm most unsure of

Is the voltage across both capacitors now \mathrm{61.2V}?

If so, the energy now stored in the capacitor is U = \frac{1}{2}C_{eff} V^2 = 5.32 \times 10^-8 \mathrm{J}

Thanks!
 
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BOAS said:

Homework Statement


Consider a parallel-plate capacitor, with two square plates of side \mathrm{12.0 cm} separated by a \mathrm{4.50- mm} gap. Half of the space between the gaps is filled with a material of dielectric constant \mathrm{K = 3.40}, while the rest is filled with just air.
(a) What is the capacitance, in \mathrm{pF}, of this configuration?
(b) An 18.0V battery is connected across the plates. How much energy is stored in the capacitor?
(c) The dielectric is now removed from the gap, and nothing else is changed. How much energy is now stored in the capacitor

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
The space is filled with a dielectric in such a way that it is equivalent to two parallel plate capacitors connected in parallel.
So the configuration is like (b) below, right?
Fig1.gif

I am assuming K_{air} = 1

Parts A and B are fine, so I haven't shown my working in detail here. I will if that will help the discussion of part c.

(a) C = \frac{k \epsilon_{0} A}{d}

For 'capacitor 1' (with dielectric) C_{1} = 4.82 \times 10^{-11} \mathrm{F}

For 'capacitor 2' (without dielectric) C_{2} = 1.42 \times 10^{-11} \mathrm{F}

The effective capacitance of these, is simply their sum.

C_{eff} = C_{1} + C_{2} = 6.24 \times 10^{-11} \mathrm{F} = 62.4 \mathrm{pF}

(b) The energy stored in this capacitor is U = \frac{1}{2}C_{eff} V^2 = 1.01 \times 10^-8 \mathrm{J}

(c) I am unsure of, but this is what I've been thinking:

Removing the dielectric from C_{1} increases the electric field, and thus the voltage also increases.

The voltage increases by a factor of \mathrm{k} = 3.4 to a new value of \mathrm{V} = 61.2 \mathrm{V}.
Hold on! Only one of your capacitors had a dielectric. If they were physically separate and unconnected then the voltage of the one that had the dielectric would change by k, but the other would not. Since they are physically connected in this case, you cannot assume that the assembly as a whole will be altered by factor k when the dielectric is removed.

Rather than working with the voltage which changes, why not work with the charge which must remain constant when the capacitor is isolated? What's the expression for the energy stored in a capacitor in terms of the charge?
C_{1} = \frac{\epsilon_{0} 7.2 \times 10^{-3}}{0.0045} 1.42 \times 10^{-11} \mathrm{F}

I think this makes sense, as this is the same as the air filled capacitor.

The new effective capacitance is C_{eff} = C_{1} + C_{2} = 2.84 \times 10^{-11} \mathrm{F} = 28.4\mathrm{pF}

This is the step I'm most unsure of

Is the voltage across both capacitors now \mathrm{61.2V}?
Nope.
If so, the energy now stored in the capacitor is U = \frac{1}{2}C_{eff} V^2 = 5.32 \times 10^-8 \mathrm{J}

Thanks!
 
gneill said:
So the configuration is like (b) below, right?
View attachment 81853

Yes.

gneill said:
Hold on! Only one of your capacitors had a dielectric. If they were physically separate and unconnected then the voltage of the one that had the dielectric would change by k, but the other would not. Since they are physically connected in this case, you cannot assume that the assembly as a whole will be altered by factor k when the dielectric is removed.

Rather than working with the voltage which changes, why not work with the charge which must remain constant when the capacitor is isolated? What's the expression for the energy stored in a capacitor in terms of the charge?

Is my treatment as separate capacitors ok for part b?

The energy stored in a capacitor in terms of charge is U = \frac{Q^{2}}{2C}

So, I should be able to do this by saying the initial charge on the capacitor is Q = CV

When the dielectric is removed, the effective capacitance is reduced to that of a simple air filled parallel plate capacitor, with Q held constant.

Q = C_{eff}V = 18(6.24 \times 10^{-11}) = 1.1232 \times 10^{-9} C

Once the dielectric has been removed, the effective capacitance of the system is C_{eff} = \frac{\epsilon_{0} A}{d} = \frac{\epsilon_{0} \times 0.0144}{0.0045} = 2.83 \times 10^{-11} F

The energy stored in the capacitor is now U = \frac{Q^{2}}{2C} = \frac{(1.1232 \times 10^{-9})^{2}}{2(2.83 \times 10^{-11})} = 2.23 \times 10^{-8} J
 
BOAS said:
Is my treatment as separate capacitors ok for part b?
Yes.
The energy stored in a capacitor in terms of charge is U = \frac{Q^{2}}{2C}

So, I should be able to do this by saying the initial charge on the capacitor is Q = CV

When the dielectric is removed, the effective capacitance is reduced to that of a simple air filled parallel plate capacitor, with Q held constant.

Q = C_{eff}V = 18(6.24 \times 10^{-11}) = 1.1232 \times 10^{-9} C

Once the dielectric has been removed, the effective capacitance of the system is C_{eff} = \frac{\epsilon_{0} A}{d} = \frac{\epsilon_{0} \times 0.0144}{0.0045} = 2.83 \times 10^{-11} F

The energy stored in the capacitor is now U = \frac{Q^{2}}{2C} = \frac{(1.1232 \times 10^{-9})^{2}}{2(2.83 \times 10^{-11})} = 2.23 \times 10^{-8} J
Yup. Looks good!
 
gneill said:
Yes.

Yup. Looks good!

Thanks for the help!
 

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