Renewal Process: laplace transform approach

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The discussion revolves around finding the renewal function for a renewal process using the Laplace transform approach, specifically with an interrenewal probability density function given by g(x) = (c^2)xe^(-cx) for x > 0.

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  • Participants discuss the use of Laplace transforms, noting the relationship between M*(s) and G*(s), and express confusion regarding the inversion of the resulting expressions. There is a mention of the need to clarify whether M* and G* are indeed Laplace transforms. Some participants question the use of the density function versus the cumulative distribution function in the context of the renewal density.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants expressing a clearer understanding of the relationships involved. There is a recognition of the need for careful application of Laplace transforms, and guidance has been offered regarding the correct forms of the transforms. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the use of density versus cumulative functions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a lack of recent experience with Laplace transforms, which may affect their confidence in applying the concepts correctly. There is also an acknowledgment of potential confusion stemming from the definitions and relationships between the various functions involved.

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Homework Statement


Use the Laplace transform approach to find the renewal function for a renewal process with interrenewal p.d.f. as follows:

g(x) = (c^2)xe^(-cx) , x > 0

The Attempt at a Solution


M*(s) = G*(s)/(1-G*(s)) where M*(s) and G*(s) denote laplace transforms

I have that G*(s) = -c/(c+s)^2 - 1/(c+s) and when I plug that into the above equation I get something that isn't easily inverted :(

It should be noted taht I haven't used laplace transforms in YEARS and they were always very weird to me.
 
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SantyClause said:

Homework Statement


Use the Laplace transform approach to find the renewal function for a renewal process with interrenewal p.d.f. as follows:

g(x) = (c^2)xe^(-cx) , x > 0

The Attempt at a Solution


M*(s) = G*(s)/(1-G*(s)) where M*(s) and G*(s) denote laplace transforms

I have that G*(s) = -c/(c+s)^2 - 1/(c+s) and when I plug that into the above equation I get something that isn't easily inverted :(

It should be noted taht I haven't used laplace transforms in YEARS and they were always very weird to me.

You need to be more careful: M* and G* are Laplace transforms or WHAT? If ##\tilde{f}(s)## is the LT of f(x), then since f is the density of a 2-Erlang random variable (= a sum of two iid exponentials), we have that its LT is the product of the exponential LTs:
\tilde{f}(s) = \frac{c^2}{(s+c)^2}. I don't know how you got your G*(s). If you thought you wanted the LT ##\tilde{F}(s)## of F(x) = cdf of f(x), you should have gotten
\tilde{F}(s) = \frac{1}{s} \tilde{f}(s) = \frac{c^2}{s(s+c)^2} = <br /> \frac{1}{s} - \frac{c}{(s+c)^2} - \frac{1}{c+s}.

Anyway, the renewal density m(t) has LT ##\tilde{m}(s)## given by
\tilde{m}(s) = \frac{\tilde{f}(s)}{1-\tilde{f}(s)},and the renewal function
##M(t) = \int_0^t m(\tau) \, d\tau## has LT \tilde{M}(s) = \frac{1}{s} \tilde{m}(s).
 
Ok I think I understand now. Of course the two things should have been off only by 1/s.

But for the following formula

Ray Vickson said:
Anyway, the renewal density m(t) has LT ##\tilde{m}(s)## given by
\tilde{m}(s) = \frac{\tilde{f}(s)}{1-\tilde{f}(s)},[/tex]

we are supposed to use the density rather than the cdf?
 
SantyClause said:
Ok I think I understand now. Of course the two things should have been off only by 1/s.

But for the following formula



we are supposed to use the density rather than the cdf?

I'll let you figure out the reason, but I wrote exactly what I said and meant.
 

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