Reparameterizing a curve by arc-length and verifying unit speed

14 replies · 3K views · last reply
Schwarzschild90
Messages
111
Reaction score
1

Homework Statement


Problem statement uploaded as image.

Homework Equations


Arc-length function
Arc-length formula: s(t) equals the integral from 0 to t of the norm of r prime(u), with respect to u.

The Attempt at a Solution


Tangent vector:
r=-sinh(t), cosh(t), 3

Now, I just need to reparameterize it using arclength and verify my work is unit-speed. Will someone give me a hint? Should I use the arc-length function to accomplish this.
 
Attachments
  • Printed text stating: Consider the following curve, gamma from R to R cubed, t mapped to (3 cosh t, 4 sinh t, 3t), followed by three bullet points: compute the tangent vector, re-parameterize using arc-length, verify the parameterization is unit-speed.
    1.PNG
    7 KB · Views: 500
Schwarzschild90 said:

Homework Statement


Problem statement uploaded as image.

Homework Equations


Arc-length function
Equation s(t) = integral from 0 to t of the norm of r'(u) du, the arc-length function of a vector-valued curve r.

The Attempt at a Solution


Tangent vector:
r=-sinh(t), cosh(t), 3

Now, I just need to reparameterize it using arclength and verify my work is unit-speed. Will someone give me a hint? Should I use the arc-length function to accomplish this.

What is preventing you from trying it for yourself?
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Schwarzschild90
It's that I have no means of checking the solution, so before I invest in it, I would like to know if my method is correct (assuming that I integrate correctly).
 
Schwarzschild90 said:

Homework Statement


Problem statement uploaded as image.

Homework Equations


Arc-length function
Formula for arc length function s(t) equals the integral from 0 to t of the norm of r prime(u), with respect to u.

The Attempt at a Solution


Tangent vector:
r=-sinh(t), cosh(t), 3
This isn't the tangent vector.
Schwarzschild90 said:
Now, I just need to reparameterize it using arclength and verify my work is unit-speed. Will someone give me a hint? Should I use the arc-length function to accomplish this.
In future posts, please show more of your work. What you have here just barely qualifies as a problem attempt.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Schwarzschild90
Tangent vector
Column vector with entries 3 sinh(t), 4 cosh(t), and 3, shown in square brackets.


Now, compute the norm of the tangent vector:
Plain text expression: 5 csgn(cosh(t)) cosh(t)

Using this, make the following substitution
Integral from 0 to t of the square root of 9 cosh(t)^2 + 16 sinh(t)^2, with respect to t.
 
How do I compute the arclength, without knowing the range? For example [0 <= t <= 2pi]

Another shot at the arc length of the tangent vector

[itex]\sqrt{(9+9*sinh(t)^2+16*cosh(t)^2)}dt =^*<br /> 25 cosh^2(t) = <br /> 25 sinh^2(t)+25[/itex]

* Using a trigonometric identity

PS: csgn is code used specifically by maple. It' not necessarily a mathematical function
 
Last edited:
Schwarzschild90 said:
How do I compute the arclength, without knowing the range? For example [0 <= t <= 2pi]
The arc length function in your relevant equations gives the arc length in terms of a parameter t.
Schwarzschild90 said:
Another shot at the arc length of the tangent vector

[itex]\sqrt{(9+9*sinh(t)^2+16*cosh(t)^2)}dt =^*<br /> 25 cosh^2(t) =<br /> 25 sinh^2(t)+25[/itex]
The last expression above is not helpful, but the one before it is helpful. What happened to the square root?
Schwarzschild90 said:
* Using a trigonometric identity

PS: csgn is code used specifically by maple. It' not necessarily a mathematical function
Do you know what it means, though? I've never seen it, but I don't use Maple.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Schwarzschild90
Right, the square root should've been preserved, in the above equation. Here it is, in all of its glory:

[itex]\sqrt{25cosh^2(t)}[/itex]
So, is this equation the reparameterization of the tangent vector?

csgn(x) is the sign function of real AND complex numbers; where csgn = complex signum.
 
Graph of a symmetric, U-shaped curve against t from about -6 to 6, rising steeply at both ends to 600000 on the vertical axis, with a minimum near zero.

Plot of the 25cosh^2(t) function; the norm of the tangent vector
 
Last edited:
Schwarzschild90 said:
View attachment 93321
Plot of the 25cosh^2(t) function

This is not relevant. The question is what cosh(t) looks like, not its square. You should not even need to do an actual plot; just picture it in your mind.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Schwarzschild90
Graph of a U-shaped curve, symmetric about the vertical axis, with t on the horizontal axis from -8 to 8 and values on the vertical axis from 0 to 1800; the curve is flat near zero and rises steeply at both ends.


Plot of [itex]5 \sqrt{cosh(t)}[/itex]

I can picture it in my mind. What am I supposed to "see"?
 
Last edited:
I get this for the parameterization by arclength of the tangent vector
[itex]int(5*sqrt(cosh(t)^2), t = 0 .. 1) = 5 sinh(1)[/itex]
 
Schwarzschild90 said:
I get this for the parameterization by arclength of the tangent vector
[itex]int(5*sqrt(cosh(t)^2), t = 0 .. 1) = 5 sinh(1)[/itex]
This is not a parameterization -- it's a number.

As I said before...
Mark44 said:
The arc length function in your relevant equations gives the arc length in terms of a parameter t.
IOW, ##\int_0^t 5 \sqrt{\cosh^2(w)} dw##
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Schwarzschild90