Representation of angular momentum matrix in Cartesian and spherical basis

In summary: Thanks for clearing that up :)In summary, In the conversation, two matrices are discussed. The first matrix is composed of the i\hbar \left( {\begin{array}{*{20}{c}} 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & { - 1} \\ 0 & 1 & 0 \\\end{array}} \right){\rm{ }}{G_1} and the second matrix is composed of the i\hbar \left( {\begin{array}{*{20}{c}} 0 & 0 & 1 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \\ { -
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The two sets of matrices:
[tex]{G_1} = i\hbar \left( {\begin{array}{*{20}{c}}
0 & 0 & 0 \\
0 & 0 & { - 1} \\
0 & 1 & 0 \\
\end{array}} \right){\rm{ }}{G_2} = i\hbar \left( {\begin{array}{*{20}{c}}
0 & 0 & 1 \\
0 & 0 & 0 \\
{ - 1} & 0 & 0 \\
\end{array}} \right){\rm{ }}{G_3} = i\hbar \left( {\begin{array}{*{20}{c}}
0 & { - 1} & 0 \\
1 & 0 & 0 \\
0 & 0 & 0 \\
\end{array}} \right)[/tex]
and
[tex]{J_1} = \frac{\hbar }{{\sqrt 2 }}\left( {\begin{array}{*{20}{c}}
0 & 1 & 0 \\
1 & 0 & 1 \\
0 & 1 & 0 \\
\end{array}} \right){\rm{ }}{J_2} = \frac{{i\hbar }}{{\sqrt 2 }}\left( {\begin{array}{*{20}{c}}
0 & { - 1} & 0 \\
1 & 0 & { - 1} \\
0 & 1 & 0 \\
\end{array}} \right){\rm{ }}{J_3} = \hbar \left( {\begin{array}{*{20}{c}}
1 & 0 & 0 \\
0 & 0 & 0 \\
0 & 0 & { - 1} \\
\end{array}} \right)[/tex]
They both satisfy the common commutation relation
[tex][{L_i},{L_j}] = i\hbar {\varepsilon _{ijk}}{L_k}[/tex] with L substituted by G or J
So both can be used to describe angular momentum. G is called the Cartesian basis representation and J is called spherical basis representation. This is absolutely new to me, so I want to acquire some general knowledge about it. For example, why are G and J named like that (Cartesian and spherical...), how are they related and so on. And any source of reference will be helpful.
 
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This is not something terribly deep, but it's good to know.

The two representations are related through a basis transformation. So it's just a different way of looking at the same physical system.

To be specific: take any of the G's (usually one takes G3), diagonalize it and you end up with J3. So there is a (unitary) basis transformation such that

[tex]J_3 = U^{-1} G_3 U[/tex]

This same basis transformation transforms G2 and G1 into J2 and J1. More importantly: the basis transformation preserves the algebraic structure: the Lie bracket. Since a basis transformation is invertible you are dealing with an algebra isomorphism -- a bijective mapping which preserves the algebra structure.

This is the definition of similarity of two representations: the two representations are equivalent. Usually, you do not distinguish between two representations which are equivalent -- it's just a different look at the same physics. One way might be more convienent to use than the other, but it's important to realize that they do not describe different physical systems.

Sidenote: that what you call the spherical basis is called the Chevally basis in the (more general) context of Lie algebras. It refers to the basis in which you diagonalize as many generators of the Lie algebra as possible. The subspace spanned by these generators is called the Cartan subalgebra. The remaining, non-diagonalized operators are then formed to so-called step operators. Very interesting stuff, although quite an overkill for su(2) (the Cartan subalgebra is one dimensional).

You should really consult a proper book on Lie groups, Lie algebras and representation theory -- I recommend the book by Jones as an easy start.

I'll stop my rant now.
 
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Thanks, the information is quite helpful. Yet I still don't understand why G has anything to do with Cartesian coordinates and J has anything to do with spherical coordinate. And what's the name of Jones' book?
 
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the eigenfunctions of the J's are spherical harmonic functions in position representation, J's generate the rotation matrices that act on state vectors when spherical functions are chosen to be bases . On the other hand, G's are the infinitesimal generators of space rotating matrices of cartesian vectors.
 
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inempty said:
the eigenfunctions of the J's are spherical harmonic functions in position representation, J's generate the rotation matrices that act on state vectors when spherical functions are chosen to be bases . On the other hand, G's are the infinitesimal generators of space rotating matrices of cartesian vectors.
Thanks inempty, nice to see a familiar face here:rofl:
 
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haha
 
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inempty said:
G's are the infinitesimal generators of space rotating matrices of cartesian vectors.

As a sidenote, quantum states that make a basis for G is p_x, p_y and p_z states.
 
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weejee said:
As a sidenote, quantum states that make a basis for G is p_x, p_y and p_z states.

Why? I couldn't understand it clearly. After simple calculation it turns out that the basis functions are corresponding to x,y and z. They're not momentum operator's eigenfunctions.
 
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Hi inempty,

p_x, p_y and p_z don't mean momentum eigenstates. They are p orbitals, where p_x and p_y are linear combinations of |l=1,m=1> and |l=1,m=-1> states, while p_z corresponds to the |l=1,m=0> state. Their wavefunctions are proportional to x, y and z, respectively, as you have pointed out.
 
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weejee said:
Hi inempty,

p_x, p_y and p_z don't mean momentum eigenstates. They are p orbitals, where p_x and p_y are linear combinations of |l=1,m=1> and |l=1,m=-1> states, while p_z corresponds to the |l=1,m=0> state. Their wavefunctions are proportional to x, y and z, respectively, as you have pointed out.

Oh, I got it :) you are right.
 

1. What is the difference between the Cartesian and spherical basis for representing angular momentum matrix?

The Cartesian basis uses three orthogonal unit vectors (x, y, z) to represent the angular momentum matrix, while the spherical basis uses three spherical coordinates (r, θ, φ) that represent the same matrix using a radial, polar, and azimuthal angle.

2. How is angular momentum matrix represented in the Cartesian basis?

The angular momentum matrix is represented as a 3x3 matrix in the Cartesian basis, with elements corresponding to the x, y, and z components of the angular momentum vector.

3. What is the advantage of using the spherical basis for representing angular momentum matrix?

The spherical basis allows for a more convenient representation of angular momentum in systems with spherical symmetry, such as atoms and molecules. It also simplifies the mathematical calculations involved in solving quantum mechanical problems.

4. Can the angular momentum matrix be converted from one basis to another?

Yes, the angular momentum matrix can be converted from the Cartesian basis to the spherical basis and vice versa using mathematical equations. This allows for a more flexible representation of angular momentum, depending on the needs of the problem at hand.

5. How does the angular momentum matrix change when changing from one basis to another?

The elements of the angular momentum matrix change when converting from one basis to another, but the overall information and physical properties represented by the matrix remain the same. The transformation equations involve the use of Clebsch-Gordan coefficients, which relate the basis states in the two different representations.

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