Research paper reading suggestions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around suggestions for reading research papers, particularly for a high school student seeking to transition from solving Olympiad problems to engaging with academic literature. The scope includes recommendations for introductory to intermediate level materials and potential research projects.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that reading research papers is not suitable for beginners and recommends starting with introductory textbooks instead.
  • Another participant proposes reading historical papers by figures like Noether, Einstein, and Planck as a more accessible entry point.
  • A participant expresses interest in starting with Newton's "Principia," but others caution that it may be too complex and outdated for their purposes.
  • Concerns are raised about the original language of "Principia," with one participant noting that original papers are often intended for experts and may not serve as effective teaching tools for non-experts.
  • There is a desire expressed to understand the reasoning and verification processes behind historical conclusions presented in research papers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to reading research papers. While some advocate for historical papers, others argue against original papers for beginners, indicating multiple competing views on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the potential challenges of understanding original research papers, including the complexity of language and the intended audience of such works. There is also a mention of the need for foundational knowledge before engaging with advanced literature.

Physicistpropeller
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Hey guys, I am currently in 11th grade.
I am just used to solving Olympiad problems and proving some random theorems. I think i should start studying some reasearch papers for ny own benefit..any suggestions for where to start with?
Suggest from intro to intermediate level...will be fine! Thankyou!Also i believe I can work on some intro level research projects...if anyy pls!
 
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Research papers are usually at the front of research activities, which is far away from any introducing character. Quite the contrary of what you are asking for: you need to read a lot of introductory textbooks in order to understand research papers.

My suggestion is to read some historical papers instead, e.g. Noether, Einstein, Planck.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Research papers are usually at the front of research activities, which is far away from any introducing character. Quite the contrary of what you are asking for: you need to read a lot of introductory textbooks in order to understand research papers.

My suggestion is to read some historical papers instead, e.g. Noether, Einstein, Planck.
yea! I was thinking to start with principia as a starting thesis... which historical papers u suggest by the way and thanks
 
The Principia is a bit mighty, and possibly too old-fashioned. I think Einstein is doable.
 
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fine gotcha... thankyou

fresh_42 said:
The Principia is a bit mighty, and possibly too old-fashioned. I think Einstein is doable.
 
The Principia is impenetrable. Especially in the original Latin.

I'm not a big fan of original papers for this purpse. They are intended for experts to explain theories in an early stage of development to other experts. Not to teach theories that have been around for a while to non-experts.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
The Principia is impenetrable. Especially in the original Latin.

I'm not a big fan of original papers for this purpse. They are intended for experts to explain theories in an early stage of development to other experts. Not to teach theories that have been around for a while to non-experts.
i got you...the thing is i was just intending to know how they reached to this that conclusion... how they verified this And all through papers/thesis so yeah
 
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