Resistive dissipation and Ohm's law

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between potential difference, resistance, and current in a resistive device, specifically focusing on how changes in these parameters affect the rate of electrical energy conversion to thermal energy. The context is framed within Ohm's law and power equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the effects of varying voltage, current, and resistance on power dissipation, questioning the implications of Ohm's law on these variations. There is an attempt to rank the changes in power based on different scenarios.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the relationships dictated by Ohm's law. There is a recognition that changes in power occur under certain conditions, and some participants are clarifying their understanding of the implications of keeping certain variables constant.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions made regarding the behavior of the device under Ohm's law, particularly in scenarios where resistance is altered while other variables are held constant. Some participants suggest that the device may have characteristics that allow for such adjustments.

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Homework Statement


A potential difference V is connected across a device with resistance R, causing current i through the device. Rank the following variations according to the change in the rate at which electrical energy is converted to thermal energy due to the resistance, greatest change first:
(a) V is doubled with R unchanged,
(b) i is doubled with R unchanged,
(c) R is doubled with V unchanged,
(d) R is doubled with i unchanged.

Homework Equations


$$P= {i^2} R$$
$$P= \frac {V^2} R$$

The Attempt at a Solution


I know and understand that (a) and (b) result in ##P'=4P##, but I'm not sure if I judge (c) and (d) variations correctly. I guess that the answer to (c) and (d) is that there would be no change if the device obeys Ohm's law.
 
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You can assume some values for V and R and check each condition. You have listed the correct equations.
AdrianMachin said:
guess that the answer to (c) and (d) is that there would be no change if the device obeys Ohm's law.
No change in what?
 
cnh1995 said:
You can assume some values for V and R and check each condition. You have listed the correct equations.

No change in what?
No change in ##P##.
 
AdrianMachin said:
No change in ##P##.
There will be changes in P according to the equations you've listed.
 
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cnh1995 said:
There will be changes in P according to the equations you've listed.
I think I was wrong to worry about the Ohm's law, it is actually embedded in those two equations.
 
It looks like they only want you to worry about the changes that each choice asks about. Obviously if R is kept constant (in the first two), then a change in V results in a change in I, as well as a change in I would result in a change in V (per Ohm's Law). So the bottom two tell you that somehow the device has changed (maybe it is a potentiometer, which you can adjust), and they are able to configure the supply to remain constant in the listed variable.
 

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