B Resultant force in vertical circular motion

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In vertical circular motion, the resultant force does not always point toward the center, especially when the speed is not constant. When an object moves vertically under gravity, its speed varies, leading to a resultant force that can point diagonally down at certain positions. The rule that the resultant force always points to the center applies only to uniform circular motion, where speed remains constant. Thus, in non-uniform circular motion, such as a weight spun vertically, the resultant force's direction changes. Understanding this distinction is crucial for analyzing forces in circular motion.
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Suppose we have a vertical circular motion with gravity according to the image below.

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In the leftmost and rightmost positions the resultant force is pointing diagonally down. Isn't the resultant force supposed to be pointing at the center at all times in a circular motion? What am I getting wrong?
 
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Goliatbagge said:
Suppose we have a vertical circular motion with gravity according to the image below.

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In the leftmost and rightmost positions the resultant force is pointing diagonally down. Isn't the resultant force supposed to be pointing at the center at all times in a circular motion? What am I getting wrong?
There's a difference between circular motion in this case and uniform circular motion (i.e. at constant speed).
 
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PeroK said:
There's a difference between circular motion in this case and uniform circular motion (i.e. at constant speed).
Ok, so let me get this straight. The resultant force in a circular motion is always pointing to the center if, and only if, the motion is at a constant speed. For example, if we are spinning a weight attached in a string vertically in a gravity field it will NOT have constant speed and therefore the rule does not apply.

Is this correct?
 
Goliatbagge said:
Ok, so let me get this straight. The resultant force in a circular motion is always pointing to the center if, and only if, the motion is at a constant speed. For example, if we are spinning a weight attached in a string vertically in a gravity field it will NOT have constant speed and therefore the rule does not apply.

Is this correct?
Yes. In general (this applies to any motion, in fact), the component of the force perpendicular to the instantaneous direction of motion changes only the direction (not the speed) and the component parallel to the direction of motion changes the speed.
 
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Love this animation! Thank you!
 
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Goliatbagge said:
Ok, so let me get this straight. The resultant force in a circular motion is always pointing to the center if, and only if, the motion is at a constant speed. For example, if we are spinning a weight attached in a string vertically in a gravity field it will NOT have constant speed and therefore the rule does not apply.

Is this correct?
Yes, see also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acceleration#Tangential_and_centripetal_acceleration
 
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