Resume Ethics: Co-Op Work Full-Time + School Full-Time What to say?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the ethical considerations of representing a co-op work experience alongside full-time school enrollment on a resume. Participants explore the implications of claiming full-time status in both work and education, focusing on the definitions and perceptions of full-time work and coursework.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the ethics of stating full-time college attendance while working full-time at a co-op, seeking opinions on the matter.
  • Another participant argues that the co-op should be considered a course, suggesting that it cannot be both a full-time job and a course simultaneously.
  • Some participants express concern about the potential consequences of misrepresenting the situation on a resume, emphasizing the importance of honesty.
  • A participant clarifies their academic situation, detailing the credits they are enrolled in and the nature of their coursework, highlighting that one class is essentially a filler with no actual work involved.
  • There is a suggestion that the resume should not include detailed course information, as this is typically reflected on transcripts, and that explanations should be provided in a cover letter instead.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express disagreement regarding the ethical implications of the resume representation. Some advocate for honesty and clarity, while others question the technicalities of credit allocation and how they should be presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of defining full-time work and coursework, as well as the potential for misinterpretation of the academic credits involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to represent the situation ethically on a resume.

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I'm going to do a Co-Op with a research institute, full-time during the Fall semester. It will be a traditional 40 hour work experience.

I will also be enrolling in school, fulltime during the Fall. I'll only be taking 8 real credits, and the other 4 are for an internship I'm doing this summer at Microsoft. Hence, 8 credits worth of real classes (2 classes) + 4 credits (of doing nothing during the semester, pretty much) = 12 credits AKA full-time.

Is it unethical if I say that I attended college full-time while working full-time at my co-op for the Fall on my resume? Just wanted to hear some opinions. Thanks.
 
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Yes, I believe it is. The Co-Op research counts as a course, not as a separate full-time job. Or if it's a full-time separate job, then it doesn't count as a course. You can't have both.

Just state on your resume that you were doing research full-time while taking 8 credits worth of classes.
 
Good for you for having sound ethics enough to ask this - I'm impressed! Seems so many people today pad their resume without the slightest twinge of conscience.

I wouldn't make that claim if I were you. Your instinct is correct, that it's only true on a technicality. While it's not likely that anyone would ever find out, if they did it would reflect poorly on you.

Plus, every time you said it, you would know you weren't being full-on truthful, and it would bother you o:) .
 
I think I'll avoid it. You're absolutely right, lisab.
 
Hurh? What am I missing here? to me it read out as "I am doing research 40h a week and doing standard 100% coursework". Do you get a double-credit somewhere there that I missed?
 
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Hurh? What am I missing here? to me it read out as "I am doing research 40h a week and doing standard 100% coursework". Do you get a double-credit somewhere there that I missed?

Only 8 credits of standard coursework - 4 of the credits are for an internship that HD555 won't actually do until summer (the Microsoft internship).
 
If you are working full time, you are working full time. That should be listed in your "Work Experience" and should be noted as a co-op for credit.

Your semester hours shouldn't be listed on the resume at all, so that isn't an issue. If for some reason you feel the need to include a date range for your education entries, the semester will be part of your date range for the current degree you are working on. No further annotation is necessary.
 
Let me explain again:

This summer, I am interning at a company.

For the fall semester, I am enrolled in 12 credits. Specifically, 3 classes. Which means 4 credits / class.

Class 1: Senior Project - 4 credits (normal class)
Class 2: Modern Art - 4 credits (normal class)
Class 3: Internship Credit - 4 credits (normal class that I do not attend or do any work for)

All the classes = 12 credits. In actuality, I am only taking Class 1 and Class 2 in the fall semester. Class 3 is just like a filler, I really don't do any work.

All while I am taking these classes, I will be working full-time in the fall, 40 hours per week.

So in the end, it's 40 hours per week AND the "three" classes.
 
That's much clearer
Though the previous still stands. You're taking two courses and working at the same time; don't lie on your resume by saying you're actually taking three due to a technicality. Just like any lies on your resume, it may come to bite you in the *** hard.
 
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Why would that ever be put in a resume at all?

Your courses appear on your transcript. Your argument for being a good/the best candidate goes in your cover letter, along with any explanation of questionable things that appear on your resume or transcript.

Your resume simply does not include individual course information, unless it is directly applicable to the specific job you are applying for, in which case you have created a resume just for that application and it is explained in your cover letter.
 

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