Ricci scalar and curveture of FRW metric

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the curvature of the universe as described by the Friedmann-Robertson-Walker (FRW) metric, particularly focusing on the relationship between the Ricci scalar, the curvature constant \( k \), and the implications for the universe's homogeneity and isotropy. Participants explore whether the curvature is constant or varies over time, referencing the Einstein equations and the Friedmann equations.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the FRW metric describes a universe that is homogeneous and isotropic, with a curvature constant \( k \) that can take values of 1, 0, or -1.
  • Another participant emphasizes the distinction between the constant curvature of the spatial three-dimensional hypersurface in the FRW universe and the time-varying curvature of the four-dimensional spacetime.
  • A participant references Kolb's work, questioning the expression for the Ricci tensor in special spaces, specifically the term \( 6k/a(t) \), indicating confusion about its implications.
  • It is clarified that "constant curvature" refers to uniform curvature across a spatial section at a given time, but in cosmological models, this curvature can change over time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the curvature of the universe is constant or varies with time, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the definitions of curvature and the dependence on specific models, as well as unresolved mathematical expressions related to the Ricci tensor.

sadegh4137
Messages
72
Reaction score
0
hi

we know that our universe is homogenous and isotropic in large scale.
the metric describe these conditions is FRW metric.
In FRW, we have constant,k, that represent the surveture of space.
it can be 1,0,-1.
but the the Einstan Eq, Ricci scalar is obtained as function of time! and this leads to Frideman Eq.
I sonfuse about this. the curveture of universe is constant or not!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
sadegh4137 said:
hi

we know that our universe is homogenous and isotropic in large scale.
the metric describe these conditions is FRW metric.
In FRW, we have constant,k, that represent the surveture of space.
it can be 1,0,-1.
but the the Einstan Eq, Ricci scalar is obtained as function of time! and this leads to Frideman Eq.
I sonfuse about this. the curveture of universe is constant or not!
You must make a distinction between the curvature of the spatial three dimensional hypersurface, that has constant curvature in the FRW universe, and the 4-dimensional spacetime curvature that doesn't have constant curvature in that model.
 
yes i know
in The early universe is written by kolb in chapter 3
auther stayed that Ricci tensor in the special space is 6k/a(t)
I can't understand this!
 
"Constant curvature" means that the curvature of a space section is the same everywhere, i.e. independent of x,y,z. At a given instant, it's the same everywhere, like a sphere. In cosmological models the curvature of the space section varies with time.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
5K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
4K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
4K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K