Ricco the Fruit Bat: Calm Down and Use the Cat Box

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of training a small dog, nicknamed "The Fruit Bat," to use a litter box after a traumatic incident. Participants share experiences, suggestions, and humorous anecdotes related to pet behavior and training methods.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes an incident where the dog urinated in the cat's litter box but became scared after being startled, leading to a reluctance to use it again.
  • Some participants express surprise at the idea of training a dog to use a litter box, with one clarifying that "The Fruit Bat" is a Japanese Chin dog, not an actual fruit bat.
  • Suggestions include waiting for the dog to urgently need to go, using positive reinforcement, and possibly relocating the litter box to change the dog's association with it.
  • Another participant proposes using a different litter box with a different smell to help the dog overcome its fear.
  • Humorous anecdotes are shared about dogs and their potty habits, including a suggestion to train the dog to pee faster instead of using a litter box.
  • One participant recounts a similar experience with another dog that had behavioral issues related to food and location, suggesting that encouragement and treats helped resolve the issue.
  • Some participants jokingly suggest unconventional methods, such as pouring beer to encourage the dog to use the litter box.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of opinions and suggestions, with no clear consensus on the best approach to retrain the dog to use the litter box. Multiple competing views remain regarding training techniques and the dog's behavior.

Contextual Notes

Some suggestions rely on assumptions about the dog's behavior and preferences, and there is uncertainty about the effectiveness of various proposed methods. The discussion reflects a mix of serious advice and lighthearted commentary.

  • #61
Evo said:
It's more like a copse of trees down in an old stream bed. It runs several miles through an area which is now being heavily developed. Whoa, the stream is the "Blue River", it's just really narrow near my house.
As opposed to the "Moon River". :smile:

All you need now is a dam and hydropower station. :biggrin:
 
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  • #62
Astronuc said:
As opposed to the "Moon River". :smile:

All you need now is a dam and hydropower station. :biggrin:
Sure, and you can add drowning to Evo's likely fractures and lacerations. If she were locked in an empty padded room, she'd find a way to injure herself.
 
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  • #63
Evo said:
I moved it, or thought I did, but now i can't find it.

It may have been tossed--(the bad dumpster bit)



Evo said:
I do have my Italian ex-fiance's very nice camera which someday I will actually ship to him. Really.

Does he really want it?---maybe he could give it to you as a parting gift (you had to look as far away as Italy for a mate??:bugeye:)


Evo said:
I also have the Evo Child's video camera which has a film cassette jammed into it, I need to get it fixed.
photos!--not video

Evo said:
So, you ARE alive. How are you feeling?


yeah thanks--it went from the flu to a chest cold to a sinus--still have aches, headache, and ringing in the ears--the doc said, "and this too will pass"----alive?--there were three or four days where it felt like it didn't matter--couple people called during that time just to make sure I was--the kind of thing you wish on your enemies.

Evo said:
You forget to whom you are speaking. If I tried to create a path from my patio, it would be from me careening into the CHASM OF DEATH.

The path doesn't have to be a full, down to the edge of the 'Royal Gorge" round trip--just a little circle drive.
 
  • #66
When the ground thaws, go to Home Depot and pick up some 4' grade stakes and a roll of green plastic mesh fencing molded with small squares and build the little rascal a "playpen" out back where he can do his stuff. All you'll need is a hammer to pound the stakes in the ground, some twine to fasten the mesh to the stakes, and a pair of pruning shears to trim the mesh to length. No power tools, no sharp edges if you can keep your fingers out of the shears - practically Evo-proof!
 
  • #67
Evo said:
I moved it, or thought I did, but now i can't find it.

I do have my Italian ex-fiance's very nice camera which someday I will actually ship to him. Really.

I also have the Evo Child's video camera which has a film cassette jammed into it, I need to get it fixed.

So, you ARE alive. How are you feeling?

You forget to whom you are speaking. If I tried to create a path frm my patio, it would be from me careening into the CHASM OF DEATH.

I was re-reading this thread, and maybe I haven't been 'down' here in the GD long enough to see any threads on this, but there has to be some other thread(s) about the 'Italian ex-fiance'----it can't be that long ago, if the camera is still in the USA--is (was) he part of the forum?---
 
  • #68
rewebster said:
I was re-reading this thread, and maybe I haven't been 'down' here in the GD long enough to see any threads on this, but there has to be some other thread(s) about the 'Italian ex-fiance'----it can't be that long ago, if the camera is still in the USA--is (was) he part of the forum?---
I always just referred to him as my best friend in Italy. He became very depressed when his father died of cancer and we drifted apart. Actually, we never officially ended our engagement, but since we hardly talk to each other anymore, and since I never sent him his camera, I consider it over. :rolleyes:
 
  • #69
Evo said:
I always just referred to him as my best friend in Italy. He became very depressed when his father died of cancer and we drifted apart. Actually, we never officially ended our engagement, but since we hardly talk to each other anymore, and since I never sent him his camera, I consider it over. :rolleyes:

Well, CONGRATULATIONS on your recent engagement---but sorry to hear that (it may be) over-----hey---after all the talk about NOT having a *whatever*----THERE was something at least--and it seems, not to long ago.

Did you meet him in Italy?

where are the threads on this *topic*?

Can someone post the links?
 
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  • #70
rewebster said:
Well, CONGRATULATIONS on your recent engagement---but sorry to hear that (it may be) over-----hey---after all the talk about NOT having a *whatever*----THERE was something at least--and it seems, not to long ago.

Did you meet him in Italy?
We got engaged about 10 years ago, and we started drifting apart at the time I became a member here. We met video conferencing, about 6 months later, I decided to meet him and flew to Italy, he proposed to me during that trip. He is one of the smartest, funniest people I've ever met.

Ok, this isn't a good picture of him, but it's all I have on this computer.
 

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  • #71
Too bad it didn't work--anytime anybody finds somebody to be with on that level and it doesn't work, is both good and not good--


so on line stuff CAN work---(to some extent)---I guess if it worked once, it may work again



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why does it show that you are never 'Online' (in orange)?
 
  • #72
rewebster said:
Too bad it didn't work--anytime anybody finds somebody to be with on that level and it doesn't work, is both good and not good--


so on line stuff CAN work---(to some extent)---I guess if it worked once, it may work again
We were like two halves of a whole. My biggest problem, and the reason I don't want to try to push things back together is the fact that he is 18 years younger than I am. I am only one year younger than his mother.

why does it show that you are never 'Online' (in orange)?
Because I don't actually exist, I'm just a test program that chroot wrote.
 
  • #73
Evo said:
We were like two halves of a whole. My biggest problem, and the reason I don't want to try to push things back together is the fact that he is 18 years younger than I am. I am only one year younger than his mother.

Because I don't actually exist, I'm just a test program that chroot wrote.

I've tried that too--both on the younger side (a few times) and the older side (twice)---fun, interesting, and lasted a while, but... oh, well--------- and, OHHHH, MAMAAA (mia)


I think testy more often than not--but seriously, why? (is it a "mentor" 'thing'?)

____________________

well, that camera is about 10 years old then too---I still use a Mavica FD-75 because it takes pretty good, low kb, diskette photos when in the 'standard' mode--good for emailing.
 
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  • #74
rewebster said:
I think testy more often than not--but seriously, why? (is it a "mentor" 'thing'?)
This forum is vBulletin, so it supports "shadow" or invisible users. You can log on invisibly - meaning that your name does not show up in the who's online list, nor does the "online" orange show up for you for others to see.

I don't know where the option is buried, and do not care. It may just be available to a subset of users, I dunno.

Ask Greg or Warren down in the issues area.
 
  • #75
jim mcnamara said:
Ask Greg or Warren down in the issues area.
Oh, I had forgotten that invisible was not an option for regular members.

I think testy more often than not-
:devil: I've been in a bad mood this year.
 
  • #76
Hey---blame the wet grass, the idiot "boyfriend" helper, and the crapper shelf bracket, and (did I miss something?)---
 
  • #77
*Slowly backs away to a safe distance from rewbster*
 
  • #78
rewebster said:
Hey---blame the wet grass, the idiot "boyfriend" helper, and the crapper shelf bracket, and (did I miss something?)---
the idiot helper was not a boyfreind, he was a hired idiot.
 
  • #79
well, let me be the first, then,...


HAPPIER NEW YEAR!
 
  • #80
rewebster said:
well, let me be the first, then,...


HAPPIER NEW YEAR!
My arm needs to be re-boken, and I have an abscessed tooth. I have GERD from the stress from my job, not a good start. :devil:
 
  • #81
Evo said:
I have GERD from the stress from my job,

That diagnosis is increasingly challenged. That's what the German doctor told me, but I had no idea where that stress should come from. So I went for a second opinion and my Dutch physician ordered a blood test. Diagnosis: http://ezinearticles.com/?Heartburn:-Dont-Blame-Stress;-Its-Usually-an-Infection&id=112878.

Treatment: Proper antibiotics. Result: Even after several years I haven't used a single medicine against heartburn again.

Those guys didn't get the Nobel price for nothing.
 
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  • #82
Andre said:
That diagnosis is increasingly challenged. That's what the German doctor told me, but I had no idea where that stress should come from. So I went for a second opinion and my Dutch physician ordered a blood test. Diagnosis: http://ezinearticles.com/?Heartburn:-Dont-Blame-Stress;-Its-Usually-an-Infection&id=112878.

Treatment: Proper antibiotics. Result: Even after several years I haven't used a single medicine against heartburn again.

Those guys didn't get the Nobel price for nothing.
I'm vomiting in my sleep, my esophagus is in really bad shape from all of the reflux, my client had to have surgery, but he's doing much better. I may have to have surgery to repair my esophagus. I've had it for years, goes away when I'm not stressed, comes back really bad during prolonged stress.
 
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  • #83
Astronuc said:
http://delargy.com/images/2004_7_Colorado/cable car.JPG
Is that the Royal Gorge cable car?

Funny, I've never seen the top. I've usually seen it from the bottom where it looks more like this: http://www.helmboldt.us/roygorg3.jpg

Actually, that's Sunshine Falls a little upriver of the bridge. We've never gotten everyone on the same side in any of my boats. Those guys are doomed.

We never went through holding our paddles like these guys either. Things usually turn out better if you're leaning forward and attacking: http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2896718570049989613VNDkkG Those guys are doomed.

I don't want to steal that guys thunder by posting all of his pics. If you click on the red "Royal Gorge Rafting", you can see the entire sequence of their trip through Sunshine Falls.

The Gorge is a blast!
 
  • #84
Evo said:
I've had it for years, goes away when I'm not stressed, comes back really bad during prolonged stress.

But that doesn't rule out the original cause to be a chronical infection, the resistance again which may be dependent on general body condition ie stress can play a role but does not cause it.

(I had it for years, coming and going)

Wouldn't hurt to consult the doctor and discuss the different Helicobacter species http://ezinearticles.com/?Heartburn:-Dont-Blame-Stress;-Its-Usually-an-Infection&id=112878.
 
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  • #85
Andre said:
But that doesn't rule out the original cause to be a chronical infection, the resistance again which may be dependent on general body condition ie stress can play a role but does not cause it.

(I had it for years, coming and going)

Wouldn't hurt to consult the doctor and discuss the different Helicobacter species http://ezinearticles.com/?Heartburn:-Dont-Blame-Stress;-Its-Usually-an-Infection&id=112878.
I know that ulcers are cuased by them, I'll ask him. I'm under some super expensive medication for it now that helps healing.
 
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  • #86
BobG said:
Is that the Royal Gorge cable car?

Funny, I've never seen the top. I've usually seen it from the bottom where it looks more like this: http://www.helmboldt.us/roygorg3.jpg

The Gorge is a blast!
I think that's from the Cable car.

I've been at the Gorge - more than 30 years ago. Yeah, it's an interesting place. One of these days I may get back there, but then I've my priorities on S. America, Africa and a few other places.
 
  • #87
Evo said:
I'm vomiting in my sleep, my esophagus is in really bad shape from all of the reflux, my client had to have surgery, but he's doing much better. I may have to have surgery to repair my esophagus. I've had it for years, goes away when I'm not stressed, comes back really bad during prolonged stress.
Oh, dear! We got to find away to de-stress you. Hmmmm!
 
  • #88
Astronuc said:
Oh, dear! We got to find away to de-stress you. Hmmmm!

Well. We could send money and a plane ticket to Hawaii.
 
  • #89
Math Jeans said:
Well. We could send money and a plane ticket to Hawaii.
I REALLY like Math Jeans. :smile:
 
  • #90
Cheaper to send some chocolates... she'll bail out pretty quick.
 

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