Right Triangle Question for physics problem

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the launch angle and initial velocity of a projectile given its horizontal range and time in the air. The subject area includes kinematics and projectile motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore separating initial velocity into horizontal and vertical components, questioning how to apply relevant equations for both dimensions. Some express confusion about where to place distance and time values, while others suggest using specific formulas to find velocity components.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided guidance on using equations for horizontal and vertical motion, with some numerical values being calculated. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations regarding the angle of launch, with no explicit consensus reached on the correct angle.

Contextual Notes

The original problem specifies a horizontal range of 50m and a total air time of 3s, which are key constraints in the discussion. Participants also note discrepancies between their calculations and a provided answer from a textbook.

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Homework Statement


given only the time in the air and the range horizontally of one projectile. How can i find the angle and velocity of the projectile?


Homework Equations


trig functions?


The Attempt at a Solution


not sure how...hints?
 
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Just begin with angle A and initial velocity V and proceed boldly as if you know the numbers. Separate the initial velocity into horizontal and vertical parts. Then write two headings:
Horizontal and Vertical. Decide in each case whether you have constant speed or accelerated motion and write the appropriate
formula(s). Put in the numbers or expressions for all known
quantities and look for an equation you can solve.
 
Hmmm...okay...well, I'm thinking i might be able to use one or both of these equations to start:
d=vit+1/2at^2
vf=vi+at
Now, i have drawn two headings labeled horizontal and vertical and this is where i find it really tricky:
under horizontal i have put these values: vi=0, a=0, d=50m, t=3
under vertical i have put these values: vi=0, a=-9.80m/s^2, vf=0, d=0,t=3

i'm confused as to which heading i should place distance and time under both or just one of them? Also not sure about my other values? More hints please?
 
Sorry, the original problem gave a range of 50m and total air time of 3s.
 
Put the numbers in all three formulas. Just d = vt for horizontal.
Looks like the horizontal formula will give you a numeric value for v*cos(A) and one of the vertical ones will give you v*sin(A). Knowing both initial velocity components you can quickly find the magnitude and angle.
 
Do you mean put 3s and 50m in all three formulas? For horizontal velocity i got 16.7m/s.
 
Yes, agree. Vertical velocity 14.7.
 
I see, so the hypotenuse should have value 16.7m/s and the adjacent side should have value 50? Thanks.
 
range of 50m and total air time of 3s.

So the vertical component is always independent of the horizontal component... so

Vx = Dx / t

so Vx = 50/3 m/s

so...

(delta) y = Vyot+1/2gt^2

0 = Vyo(3)+1/2(-9.80)9

0 = Vyo(3) -44.1

44.1/3 = Vyo

14.7 = Vy

so Vx = (50/3) m/s and Vy = (14.7) m/s

so Vr = sqrt(Vx^2 + Vy^2)

so Vr = 22.2 m/s

so for angle you can just Sin-1 of (14.7/(50/3))

so your angle of launch is 61.9 degrees.
 
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oh okay...hmm...the answer in the book says 41 degrees is angle of launch.
 
  • #11
i used sin-1 14.7/22.2=41 degrees
 
  • #12
I also get 41.4. Bleedblue should have used inverse tan instead of inverse sin in his last step.
 
  • #13
Thanks Delphi
 

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