Ring Theory: Proving $\mathbb{Z} [ \sqrt{2} ]$ has Infinitely Many Units

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The discussion revolves around proving that the ring \(\mathbb{Z}[\sqrt{2}]\) contains infinitely many units. Participants are exploring the properties of elements in this ring and their inverses.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to find an inverse for a general element \(a + b\sqrt{2}\) and questions the validity of their approach. Other participants clarify that the product should equal 1 and inquire about the specific inverse found. There is also a recognition that there are more units than just 1 and -1, prompting further exploration of generating additional units.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing clarifications and prompting each other to think critically about the existence of units beyond the trivial ones. There is a focus on identifying specific examples and methods to generate more units, indicating a productive direction.

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Participants are working within the constraints of ring theory and the properties of integers, specifically questioning the assumptions about the nature of units in \(\mathbb{Z}[\sqrt{2}]\).

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Show \mathbb{Z} [ \sqrt{2} ] = \{ a + b \sqrt{2} | a,b \in \mathbb{Z} \} has infinitely many units.

I started by taking an element:

a + b \sqrt{2} \in \mathbb{Z} [ \sqrt{2} ]

and finding an inverse

\left( a + b \sqrt{2} \right) ^{-1}

such that the product gives zero and tried to show any element works. But I'm not sure about doing this.
 
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The product should give 1.
 
And I found the inverse and I didn't see an infinite number of units. Z is the integers, right? What did you get for the inverse?
 
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Dick said:
And I found the inverse and I didn't see an infinite number of units. Z is the integers, right? What did you get for the inverse?

Ooops. My mistake. There are more units than just 1 and -1. Can you find some? Once you've found one that isn't 1 or -1, can you think of a simple way to use it to generate more?
 
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