Rise of Cancer: Examining the Role of Sugar and Refined Carbs

[Siv]

Haven't visited PF for a while since there wasn't much happening on this thread.

i thought this recent story was interesting. will someone pass the ho-hos?

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html?section=cnn_latest"

All low-carb bashers are grabbing on to this one study now

But there have already been lots of rebuttals on the web.

Here's my favourite one :
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/11/twinkie-diet-for-fat-loss.html

 

[douglerner]

His thesis is exactly that a single macronutrient, carbohydrates, is responsible for obesity, diabetes, and many other diseases that plague us. If you actually read his work, you'll find that he rigorously supports his thesis with a vast body of research going back over a century.

But is it "good science" to simply ignore the data which doesn't fit his thesis?

For example, the obesity rate in Japan is just 3%. Yet the typical diet is extremely high carbohydrate (multiple servings of white rice each day).

An overall theory has to explain this as well.

doug

 

[Albern]

Hello every one .,,
I totally agree with you.,... carb consumption and explosion of sugar are the reasons but Smoking Is also another reason of cancer that is increasing day by day..

 

[nismaratwork]

Hello every one .,,
I totally agree with you.,... carb consumption and explosion of sugar are the reasons but Smoking Is also another reason of cancer that is increasing day by day..

Smoking is associated with a fairly limited (althogh stil large) number of cancers. You don't see any other reason for increased diagoses... nothing environmental, or to do with an aging population?

 

[treehouse]

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/87/5/1384
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/84/5/1171
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/80/2/348
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/86/5/1495
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/86/4/899
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/91/3/535

More and more evidence suggests carbs are the culprit, not fat - not just for cancer but diabetes, CHD and CVD. Please read "Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes for a ton of evidence, journal articles and references. Also read Dr. Bernstein, the Whole Health Source Blog, Heart Scan Blog and Panu.

Does the last one suggest that sugar is carcinogenic?

 

[treehouse]

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/print/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-medical-science/8269/
Don't trust anyone who has an agenda. Gary Taubes has an agenda. Dipping in the sea of contradictory medical research, he's virtually assured of finding enough articles to confirm his agenda to make him sound scientific.

Benevolent agendas are. When a doctor recommends a course of treatment, that plan is an agenda toward the end of patient health. Ask this man: http://news.stanford.edu/news/2011/august/ehrlich-scientist-advocates-081111.html

you can deduce an object's trajectory within a tactically satisfactory margin of error without computing the vectors that determine exactly where it winds up in that margin. Science can inform us of a correct course of action.

 

[tkav1980]

the increase in obesity isn't about carbs, it's about eating too many calories. Taubes is a fruitcake.

I have a fantastic example of this. If you look around online you can find a diet outline called skiploading. You're literally eating doughnuts, fruitty pebbles, pasta, candy etc on the weekends and ending up sub 6% bodyfat. Total calorie expendature in any given time frame is greater than total caloric intake with the exception of re-feed days. However, from my understanding of it, these high carb re-feeds are used to restore glycogen levels that have been severely depleted through extremely low carbs, less that 50 Grams per day, while doing extremely strenuous weight training.


I used this diet for contest prep 2 years ago and it worked wonders as long as the re-feed is timed so that you start it a few hours before the contest, right after you drop your water.

 

[treehouse]

I have a fantastic example of this. If you look around online you can find a diet outline called skiploading. You're literally eating doughnuts, fruitty pebbles, pasta, candy etc on the weekends and ending up sub 6% bodyfat. Total calorie expendature in any given time frame is greater than total caloric intake with the exception of re-feed days. However, from my understanding of it, these high carb re-feeds are used to restore glycogen levels that have been severely depleted through extremely low carbs, less that 50 Grams per day, while doing extremely strenuous weight training.


I used this diet for contest prep 2 years ago and it worked wonders as long as the re-feed is timed so that you start it a few hours before the contest, right after you drop your water.

Timothy Ferriss would say that the weekly binging keeps the body from slowing its metabolism to adjust to the diet.