Rocket accelaation at the start of fuel burn

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The discussion revolves around calculating the acceleration of a rocket at the start of a fuel burn, involving concepts of momentum conservation and thrust generated by the rocket's exhaust. The rocket has a mass of 420.0 kg and is initially traveling at 18100.0 km/hr, with specific parameters regarding fuel consumption and exhaust velocity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of momentum conservation and the relationship between thrust and acceleration. There are attempts to calculate the net force on the rocket and questions about the differences in acceleration at the beginning versus the end of the fuel burn.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using the rate of change of momentum to determine the net force and acceleration. There is ongoing exploration of the implications of thrust and fuel burn on the rocket's acceleration, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available for discussion. There are questions about the correctness of the approaches taken and the assumptions made regarding the rocket's mass and thrust dynamics.

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Hi Guys this is the problem I am stuck at:

The solid fuel of a 420.0 kg rocket traveling at 18100.0 km/hr is ignited to correct the rocket trajectory in mid-flight to Mars. 5.00 kg of fuel is burnt in 13.0 s. If the exhaust velocity of the fuel, relative to the rocket, is 3650.00 km/hr, what is the acceleration of the rocket (in m/s2) at the start of this burn?

I tried momentum conservation and unable to end up with correct accl of Rocket.

Thanks a lot
 
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nag said:
Hi Guys this is the problem I am stuck at:

The solid fuel of a 420.0 kg rocket traveling at 18100.0 km/hr is ignited to correct the rocket trajectory in mid-flight to Mars. 5.00 kg of fuel is burnt in 13.0 s. If the exhaust velocity of the fuel, relative to the rocket, is 3650.00 km/hr, what is the acceleration of the rocket (in m/s2) at the start of this burn?

I tried momentum conservation and unable to end up with correct accl of Rocket.
Use F = dp/dt = vdm/dt.

The rate of change of momentum of the rocket exhaust gives you the net force on the rocket. So you should be able to determine the acceleration at the beginning of the burn. Why is it (slightly) different at the beginning than at the end of the burn?

AM
 
Thanks for the help. It is obvious that backward thrust imposes forward force on rocket. In this case as the fuel start to burn I guess rocket gains a little acceleration. Please correct me If I am wrong or missing any.
 
Andrew Mason said:
Use F = dp/dt = vdm/dt.

The rate of change of momentum of the rocket exhaust gives you the net force on the rocket. So you should be able to determine the acceleration at the beginning of the burn. Why is it (slightly) different at the beginning than at the end of the burn?

AM
Thanks for the help. It is obvious that backward thrust imposes forward force on rocket. In this case as the fuel start to burn I guess rocket gains a little acceleration. Please correct me If I am wrong or missing any.
 
Andrew Mason said:
Use F = dp/dt = vdm/dt.

The rate of change of momentum of the rocket exhaust gives you the net force on the rocket. So you should be able to determine the acceleration at the beginning of the burn. Why is it (slightly) different at the beginning than at the end of the burn?

AM
Hi,

I followed your reply and net force on rocket = (1013.89 m/s)(5/13)kg/s = 389.96N

Since F=ma => a = 389.96 / 420(the initial mass)

Is this right way of doing. Thanks.
 
nag said:
Hi,

I followed your reply and net force on rocket = (1013.89 m/s)(5/13)kg/s = 389.96N

Since F=ma => a = 389.96 / 420(the initial mass)

Is this right way of doing. Thanks.
Looks right.

AM
 

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