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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a small space probe that fires its engine at an angle while traveling at a certain speed. The problem requires understanding the forces acting on the probe, particularly the thrust from the engine and its implications on motion over time.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the free body diagram and the forces acting on the probe, questioning the relevance of gravity in space. There is mention of using impulse and momentum to determine changes in velocity, while some express uncertainty about their understanding of momentum. The direction of the probe's travel and the angle of the thrust are also points of inquiry.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on using Newton's second law and the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration. There is an exploration of different interpretations regarding the direction of travel and the significance of the thrust angle. The discussion reflects a mix of understanding and uncertainty among participants.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem assumes no mass loss during the engine burn and that the probe is in a region of space where gravitational effects can be ignored. There is also a mention of the time duration for the engine burn and the subsequent travel time after the engine shuts down.

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Homework Statement


A small space probe of mass 235 kg is traveling at 85.0 m/s. It fires its main engine at an angle of 63.00 to its original direction of travel. The engine produces a thrust of 12,000 N and there is enough fuel on board for a 10.0 s burn. What distance will it have traveled 3.00 hrs after the engine shuts down? Assume no mass loss due to firing the engine.

In which direction is the rocket travelling?


Homework Equations


I'm having trouble understanding what the free body diagram for this would look like.


The Attempt at a Solution


http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/1162/66673407.png
 
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amd123 said:

Homework Statement


A small space probe of mass 235 kg is traveling at 85.0 m/s. It fires its main engine at an angle of 63.00 to its original direction of travel. The engine produces a thrust of 12,000 N and there is enough fuel on board for a 10.0 s burn. What distance will it have traveled 3.00 hrs after the engine shuts down? Assume no mass loss due to firing the engine.



Homework Equations


I'm having trouble understanding what the free body diagram for this would look like.


The Attempt at a Solution


http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/1162/66673407.png


One thing I think you can ignore if the force of gravity - this is a space probe, so will be out away from any significant body in space.

The force of the engine is the only force acting, and given the time of the burn, you can find the impulse imparted - that will give the change in momentum, and thus the change in velocity.
That change in velocity will be added to the original velocity to get the new velocity. Mainain that for 3 hours and you know how far the probe will have gone.
 
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PeterO said:
One thing I think you can ignore if the force of gravity - this is a space probe, so will be out away from any significant body in space.

The force of the engine is the only force acting, and given the time of the burn, you can find the impulse imparted - that will give the change in momentum, and thus the change in velocity.
That change in velocity will be added to the original velocity to get the new velocity. Mainain that for 3 hours and you know how far the probe will have gone.

I haven't learned momentum yet, can't solve the problem using that method.
Also, what direction is the rocket traveling in?

Fey or Fe?
 
amd123 said:
I haven't learned momentum yet, can't solve the problem using that method.
Also, what direction is the rocket traveling in?

Fey or Fe?

The direction the probe is traveling in is irrelevant. It is only important that the force from the rocket motor is at an angle of 63 degrees to the direction. If it will make you more comfortable, make the original direction straight up the page.

Impulse - momentum is only a neat summary of V = Vo + at and F = ma.

Use Newton's second law [ F = ma] to find the acceleration, then use V = Vo + at to find the change in velocity.

For that change, assume Vo = 0 as you are only calculating the change in velocity, to be later added to the original velocity.
 

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