Rocket velocity including Universal gravitation

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The discussion revolves around deriving the rocket equation that incorporates the effects of Universal Gravitation. The original poster has made progress by deriving an equation under the assumption of constant acceleration due to gravity near Earth but is exploring a more complex scenario involving variable gravitational effects as the rocket moves away from Earth.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to relate differentials in velocity and position while questioning the solvability of the derived equations analytically. Other participants suggest that numerical methods may be necessary to solve the equations, indicating a shift in approach.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing insights and resources. There is a recognition that the equations may not have an analytical solution, and some guidance has been offered regarding the need for numerical solutions. However, no consensus has been reached on the best approach yet.

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Participants note that existing resources may not adequately address the complexities of Universal Gravitation, as some assume constant gravitational acceleration. This highlights a potential gap in the literature being referenced.

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First off this is not homework or coursework, just general interest.


I've been looking to derive the rocket equation which includes the effects of Universal Gravitation. I've been able to derive it assuming near Earth gravity where g is taking as constant acceleration.


d(vrocket)=-[G(Mearth)/(r^2)]dt -(dm/m)(vexaust)

where vexaust is the exhaust speed of the fuel.

My thoughts are to relate dt to (dt/dr)dr which is equal to (1/(vrocket))dr

This gives

d(vrocket)=-[G(Mrocket)(Mearth)/(r^2)]*(1/(vrocket))dr -(dm/m)(vexaust)


If I multiply by (vrocket) throughout this would be good for integration on the left side however it would proprogate to the differential mass term. Since vrocket isn't constant I can not simply integrate the right term (see below)

(vrocket)d(vrocket)=-[G(Mrocket)(Mearth)/(r^2)]dr -(dm/m)(vexaust)(vrocket).


Any ideas, is this even solvable analytically?


Best

AZ
 
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I'm thinking it must be solved numerically?

Anyone?
 
Thanks for the useful information/read but that doesn't assume universal gravitation, it assumes g=9.8m/s2


It does modulate the impulse delivered by the force of gravity by sin(theta) if the rocket is not traveling straight up.

Thanks, I think the equations need to be solved numerically (there is no analyitcal form).

Best

AZ
 
azaharak said:
Thanks for the useful information/read but that doesn't assume universal gravitation, it assumes g=9.8m/s2
It specifically does not assume that. Read the text: g is "the gravitational acceleration at the rocket's location".
 

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