Roles for Applied Math/Physics grads in Power Engineering?

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The discussion revolves around the potential roles for graduates with degrees in applied mathematics or physics within the power engineering sector, particularly in nuclear power plants. Participants explore the qualifications needed for engineering positions, the necessity of professional engineering licenses, and the pathways available for those with non-engineering degrees in this field.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the availability of engineering roles for applied math/physics graduates, noting mixed messages about the necessity of an engineering degree for such positions.
  • Another participant suggests that utilities typically seek candidates with specific engineering degrees and implies that an MS in engineering may be necessary for applied math/physics graduates to secure engineering jobs.
  • A different viewpoint indicates that while a PE license is important for certain tasks, many engineers operate without one, and the necessity of the license can vary by employer and job function.
  • Some participants express that the perception of a PE license can differ among employers, with some valuing it more than others.
  • A participant shares their personal academic goals, indicating a desire to transition into mechanical or electrical engineering, while also considering a master's in nuclear engineering, reflecting on the challenges of fitting into engineering roles with a math/physics background.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the roles available for applied math/physics graduates in power engineering. There are competing views on the necessity of an engineering degree and PE license, as well as differing opinions on employer expectations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexities surrounding licensing requirements and the varying perceptions of qualifications among different employers in the power engineering sector. There are also indications of personal academic and career aspirations that may influence participants' views.

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Hey all.

I was just wondering: what roles (if any) are there at power plants (particularly nuclear) for ppl with just an undergrad in applied math/physics?

I am asking, b/c, despite the fact that I often read that ppl with an undergrad in physical sciences can do engineering, I also read that you need a license to legally call yourself an engineer, and you need an undergrad in engineering to get the license. In other words, I am getting mixed messages.

This question can be broadened to other forms of power engineering. Do applied math/physics grads get hired for engineering roles? If not, do they get hired at all? For which roles?

Thnx for any responses.

PS Where do people with degrees in Engineering Physics end up, anyway?
 
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Normally, utilities (and suppliers) are looking for people with specific engineering skill sets, e.g., Mech Eng, Electrical Eng, Nuclear Eng., . . . .

It might be possible if one has good computational skills. With an Applied Math or Physics undergrad, it would probably be necessary to obtain an MS in an engineering discipline in order to get an engineering job.

Technically, to be a licensed engineer, one needs to otain a PE (professional engineering) license, which one gets by passing a test, usually after one achieves some (several years) experience while working under the supervision of other engineers, who would usually be licensed themselves.
 
A PE license is necessary to do certain tasks in accordance with the ASME code. If you are doing engineering work unrelated to ASME code matters, you probably don't need a PE license. Having a license is 'a good thing' but many engineers spend their entire careers not noticing any ill effects from lacking the PE. I have found that the Architect Engineer firms are most likely to require a PE, the utilities that own/operate the plants 'like' their engineers to have a PE, and the reactor vendors don't really care much except for engineers doing very specific kinds of work. Holding a PE license may give you a certain 'status' in some people's minds (while other people may not base their opinion of you on your license or lack thereof). Some companies may pay you more if you are a PE.

I think ASME has for many years promoted the concept of a PE license for all engineering work, similar to the way the AMA controls who holds an MD and is licensed to practice medicine. In reality though, the ASME doesn't control the world of engineering, and a tremendous amount of work gets done by 'the unlicensed.'

All of the above is just my opinion based on what I have seen. Others may have very different views. And, if you're trying to get a job, all that matters is what the prospective employer thinks...
 
Thnx for the replies. I hope to be transferred into ME (b/c I want to study thermodynamics and fluid mechanics) or EE (b/c I also have an interest in sensors/instrumentation and control) for next year. If my transfer request is denied for some reason, I would continue with applied math/physics. If math grads could fit into an engineering role seamlessly (apparently not), then it would be easier to stay where I am.

Either way, I was planning on doing a master's in NE (Nuclear reactor physics looks interesting, but I don't know if I will have the nuclear physics bg with an ME or EE. Alternatively I would focus on thermalhydraulics, or I & C)--after a few years experience in the field.

I'm a lot more focused now with my goals. Now comes the hard part...
 
BTW: How do you get a signature line? I can't seem to find it anywhere in my PF options. Thnx.
 

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