Room temperature unstable macromolecule

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of creating a macromolecule that can be ionized or elevated to the conduction band at room temperature through internal kinetic energy and long infrared radiation. It explores theoretical and practical aspects of such macromolecules, including their structure and potential applications in energy conversion.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the requirements for a macromolecule to be ionized at room temperature, suggesting the need for a shared electron at a high energy level.
  • Another participant proposes that an organic polymer with alternating double bonds and electron donating groups could meet these requirements, emphasizing the importance of molecular rigidity and length relative to infrared wavelengths.
  • A subsequent post questions the practical development of such macromolecules for converting ambient heat and radiation into electrical current, indicating uncertainty about the feasibility.
  • Another participant suggests that the concept aligns with existing technologies like photovoltaics based on conducting organic molecules or organic thin film phototransistors.
  • One participant expresses a hopeful yet cautious view about the potential for ambient heat conversion technologies, noting the slow pace of research and development in this area.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of optimism and skepticism regarding the feasibility and current progress of developing macromolecules for energy conversion. No consensus is reached on the practicality of the proposed ideas.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for specific structural characteristics in macromolecules, such as rigidity and length, but do not resolve the implications of these requirements or the challenges in practical applications.

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Researchers and practitioners in materials science, organic chemistry, and energy conversion technologies may find this discussion relevant.

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What would it take to make a ... macromolecule, a group of atoms, molecules that has one "shared" electron, witch is at a very high energy level, so that room temperatures internal kinetic energy aka heat/ temperature and room temperature long IR waves would be enough to ionize it or, at least, take it to the conduction band?
 
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You would need an organic polymer with alternating double bonds that is multiply substituted with electron donating groups. The electron donating ability of said groups to be determined. Length of the macromolecule should be approximately as long as the wavelength of the long IR electromagnetic radiation. The molecule should be fairly rigid to ensure that the overlap is maintained for the temperature of operation. (molecule should not flop around at room temperature, Tg >> RT)
 
So, it is possible. (?) Why don't we (can't we? ) develop this and use it to convert ambient heat and radiation into electrical current?
 
Hmm, so somethings actually being done at least along the lines of this.. Kinda.
Maybe someday we will actually have an ambient heat converter.. ( I really mean basically human body temperature, room temperature.. radiation coming of the walls and ground and what not. )
Its just that work is not done as fast as one would like.
Good. Kinda.
 

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