Rotation of Vectors: Comparing Matrices

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The discussion revolves around the comparison of rotation matrices, specifically focusing on the angles Θ that correspond to given matrix elements. The original poster expresses confusion regarding how the angles 240 degrees and -120 degrees are derived from the matrix components.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the elements of the rotation matrix and the corresponding angles. There is an attempt to derive the angles from the matrix elements, questioning the validity of the solutions obtained.

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Some participants have provided insights into the quadrant in which the angle must lie based on the signs of sine and cosine. There is acknowledgment of the equivalence of the angles 240 degrees and -120 degrees, though distinctions between them are noted.

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Participants are discussing the implications of the signs of sine and cosine in determining the correct quadrant for the angle, as well as the nature of angle equivalence in trigonometric functions.

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Hello,

I have a problem with rotation matrices, its just a comparison problem. Θ must be 240 or -120, I don't know how the book show the answer like that, these are the two matrices

\begin{array}--1/2&\sqrt{(3)}/2\\-\sqrt{(3)}/2&-1/2\end{array}

with

\begin{array}ccosΘ&-sinΘ\\sinΘ&cosΘ\end{array}

- I tried to take element 1,1 and 2,1 , it gives 120 & -60. How is that suppose to be 240 or -120?
 
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When you match the 11 and 21 components, you get two equations. Each of these equations has two solutions in the interval [0,360). Only one of the two solutions to the first equation will be a solution to the second equation as well.
 
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Hello,

I have a problem with rotation matrices, its just a comparison problem. Θ must be 240 or -120, I don't know how the book show the answer like that, these are the two matrices

\begin{array}--1/2&\sqrt{(3)}/2\\-\sqrt{(3)}/2&-1/2\end{array}

with

\begin{array}ccosΘ&-sinΘ\\sinΘ&cosΘ\end{array}

- I tried to take element 1,1 and 2,1 , it gives 120 & -60. How is that suppose to be 240 or -120?

Look at the first column of your matrix: you have ##\cos(\theta) = -1/2## and ##\sin(\theta) = -\sqrt{3}/2##. Since both ##\sin(\theta)## and ##\cos(\theta)## are ##< 0##, in what quadrant must ##\theta## lie? Just draw a picture of you need more insight.
 
-120 and 240 is the same angle.
 
Nitpick: They're equivalent, but not the same. (cos 240,sin 240) and (cos(-120),sin(-120)) are however the same point in ##\mathbb R^2##.
 
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