Rotational Collision Door Problem

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a solid wood door that is struck by a mass of mud, requiring the calculation of the final angular speed of the door after the impact. The context is centered around rotational dynamics and conservation of angular momentum.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of angular momentum conservation, with attempts to set up the equation correctly. There are questions regarding the moment of inertia used in the calculations and the implications of the door's dimensions.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing examination of the calculations, with some participants noting potential errors in the moment of inertia and the width of the door. Guidance has been offered regarding the correct moment of inertia formulas, and some participants have acknowledged corrections to their previous calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants express concerns about the accuracy of their calculations and the consequences of incorrect submissions on the homework platform. There is a mention of confusion regarding the dimensions used in the moment of inertia calculations.

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Homework Statement


A solid wood door 1.00 m wide and 2.00 m high is hinged along one side and has a total mass of 49.0 kg. Initially open and at rest, the door is struck at its center by a handful of sticky mud of mass 0.500 kg, traveling perpendicular to the door at 15.0 m/s just before impact. Find the final angular speed of the door (in rad/sec).

Homework Equations


ΣLBefore=ΣLAfter
L=Iω=mvrsinϕ
IDoor swinging on hinges=(1/3)mr2
IOf point=mr2

The Attempt at a Solution


ΣLBefore=ΣLAfter
mvrsinϕ=(IDoor+IMud
(.5)(15)(.5)sin90=[(1/3)(49)(.5)2+(.5)(.5)2
w=.8911 rad/sec

Sorry, I did do .8911 on the question (webassign), I just typed it in wrong
 
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megatyler30 said:
(.5)(15)(.5)sin90=[(1/3)(49)(.5)2+(.5)(.5)2
That looks right...
w=89.11 rad/sec
... but that seems much too big.
 
haruspex said:
That looks right...

... but that seems much too big.

I fixed it in OP, I meant to put .8911
 
megatyler30 said:
I fixed it in OP, I meant to put .8911

Looks good.
 
It's wrong though... (Or at least I used exact same method for practice another version and got it wrong but can't check since I'll be locked out if I get it wrong again.
 
megatyler30 said:
It's wrong though... (Or at least I used exact same method for practice another version and got it wrong but can't check since I'll be locked out if I get it wrong again.
OK, I see it. It's an easy confusion.
The moment of inertia of a rod length 2L about its centre is mL2/3.
The moment of inertia of a rod length 2L about one end is 4mL2/3.
The moment of inertia of a rod length L about one end is mL2/3.
You halved the door width, but only used 1/3 instead of 4/3.
 
megatyler30 said:
(.5)(15)(.5)sin90=[(1/3)(49)(.5)2+(.5)(.5)2

The item in red should be width of the door i.e 1.That should give you ω = .23 rad/sec .
 
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Okay, thank you very much, I ended up getting ω = .2278 rad/sec which was right.
 

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