Rotational motion (conceptual error?)

In summary, the collision shown in Figure 2 involves a disk adhering to a stick nailed at one end to a frictionless surface. After the collision, the two rotate about the nail, but there is an unbalanced external force on the system at the nail. However, this force does not produce any torque because its lever arm r is zero. Therefore, angular momentum is conserved in the collision.
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https://courses.lumenlearning.com/p...lisions-of-extended-bodies-in-two-dimensions/

"Consider the relatively simple collision shown in Figure 2, in which a disk strikes and adheres to an initially motionless stick nailed at one end to a frictionless surface. After the collision, the two rotate about the nail. There is an unbalanced external force on the system at the nail. This force exerts no torque because its lever arm r is zero. Angular momentum is therefore conserved in the collision. "

Can't see why the lever arm r is zero.
 
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The origin of the coordinate system is set at the nail, and the system under consideration is the disk and the stick. The line of action of the reaction force from the nail on the stick passes through the origin of this coordinate system, so produces no torque.
 
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The origin of the coordinate system is set at the nail, and the system under consideration is the disk and the stick. The line of action of the reaction force from the nail on the stick passes through the origin of this coordinate system, so produces no torque.

Don't quite understand what you mean. If its turning shouldn't the axis of rotation be at the nail in which case there is a lever? Is there torque in this scenario or not? Are they counting the rotation of the stick as an internal torque and talking about the nail on the stick reactive force as the external force?
 
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The term "lever arm" just means the perpendicular distance between the line of action of a force and the chosen axis.

The disk and stick exert equal and opposite internal forces on each other, and the total torque of this pair about the axis of the nail is zero. The nail exerts an external force on the stick, but this reactive force has no torque about the axis of the nail (it's line of action has zero perpendicular distance to the nail!).
 
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1. What is rotational motion?

Rotational motion is the movement of an object around an axis or point. This can be seen in objects such as a spinning top or a rotating wheel.

2. What is the difference between rotational motion and linear motion?

Rotational motion involves the movement of an object around an axis, while linear motion involves the movement of an object in a straight line. In rotational motion, the distance from the axis of rotation is important, while in linear motion, the distance from the starting point is important.

3. What is the definition of angular velocity?

Angular velocity is the rate of change of an object's angular displacement over time. It is measured in radians per second and is a measure of how fast an object is rotating.

4. How is torque related to rotational motion?

Torque is a measure of the force that causes an object to rotate around an axis. It is directly proportional to the rotational acceleration of an object and is dependent on the distance between the applied force and the axis of rotation.

5. What is the difference between rotational and translational equilibrium?

In rotational equilibrium, the net torque acting on an object is equal to zero, meaning the object is not rotating. In translational equilibrium, the net force acting on an object is equal to zero, meaning the object is not moving in a straight line. Both types of equilibrium are important in understanding the motion of objects.

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