Rotational Motion Homework: Hoop Rolling on 15 Deg Incline

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving a hoop rolling up a 15-degree incline after moving horizontally at a speed of 3.3 m/s. Participants are exploring concepts related to rotational motion and energy conservation in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of energy equations, questioning the inclusion of rotational components and the relationship between linear and angular velocities. There is confusion regarding the appropriate calculator mode for angle measurements and the implications of the hoop's initial velocity on its motion up the incline.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints and guidance regarding the conservation of energy equations and the relationship between linear and angular motion. There is ongoing exploration of the problem, with various interpretations of the calculations and assumptions being discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of a specified radius for the hoop, which raises questions about its impact on the calculations. There is also mention of the angle being given in degrees, affecting how calculations are performed.

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Homework Statement


A hoop rolling on a horizontal surface with a speed v=3.3m/s when it reaches a 15 deg incline.How far up the incline does it go?How long will it be on the incline before it reaches the botttom?


Homework Equations


I=mr2
conservation energy going up=2gyf=r2+vi2
conservation energy going down=2gyi=r[itex]\omega[/itex]2+v2
yf=sin(15)
circumference=2r[itex]\pi[/itex]=8.5m


The Attempt at a Solution

i used the conservation of energy equation and solved for r getting r=1.36m. I had my calculator in radian mode not sure what mode i should have had it in. Then i plugged the radius back in and got yf=.65m , sin(15) was also .65m so hypotenuse =1m. Then i used conservation of energy down equation and solved for [iex]\omega[/itex] getting [itex]\omega[/itex]=2rad/s i found how many radians the hoop went through by noting that the hypotenuse was 1m long so 1/8.5(2[itex]\pi[/itex])=.74 rad
so [itex]\omega[/itex]=.74rad/t=.37s
 
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pb23me said:
I=mr2
Good.
conservation energy going up=2gyf=r2+vi2
Rethink this. You're missing an ω2. (Check the units of each term.)

3. The Attempt at a Solution [/b] i used the conservation of energy equation and solved for r getting r=1.36m.
The radius is not given and could be anything. (That should tip you off that something's wrong with your conservation equation.)

Hint: The hoop is rolling without slipping, so how are v and ω related?
 
oh ok i forgot to put the[itex]\omega[/itex] in so it should be (r[itex]\omega[/itex])2+v2=2gyf so yf=1.1m and distance up =1.7m I am confused about what mode to have my calculator in? rads or degs?
 
pb23me said:
oh ok i forgot to put the[itex]\omega[/itex] in so it should be (r[itex]\omega[/itex])2+v2=2gyf so yf=1.1m
Good.
and distance up =1.7m I am confused about what mode to have my calculator in? rads or degs?
Since the angle is given in degrees, use the degree mode.
 
oh...that makes sense haha
 
ok so i used the equation 2gyf=r^2+vi^2 solved for yf and got yf=1.1m so sin(15)=1.1/h hypotenuse=.43m I am getting stuck on the last part now,solving for the time.I think i need the radius of the loop but can't seem to figure it out...
 
pb23me said:
ok so i used the equation 2gyf=r^2+vi^2 solved for yf and got yf=1.1m so sin(15)=1.1/h hypotenuse=.43m
Careful with your arithmetic.
I am getting stuck on the last part now,solving for the time.I think i need the radius of the loop but can't seem to figure it out...
You won't be able to figure out the radius, but luckily its irrelevant. Hint: What's average speed of the hoop as it goes up (or down) the ramp?
 
Ok hypotenuse =4.25m and I thought the speed going up would be different than the speed going down because the hoop has an initial velocity going up.
 
Nevermind that the speeds are the same
 

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