Rotational Motion Homework: Mass 12 kg Rod, Pivot Friction-Free

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The problem involves a uniform rod of mass 12 kg and length 1.0 m, pivoted at one end and initially balanced vertically. The discussion focuses on determining the angular acceleration as the rod passes through the horizontal and the angular speed as it passes through the vertical.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to begin the problem and considers finding the angle or velocity at point A to determine angular acceleration at B. Some participants suggest using moment of inertia and Newton's second law, while others question how to find torque and moment of inertia without additional information.

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Participants are exploring various approaches to the problem, with some guidance provided regarding the use of moment of inertia and torque. There is an ongoing exchange of ideas about the necessary calculations and concepts involved, but no consensus has been reached yet.

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Some participants note the challenge of determining torque and moment of inertia without specific values or additional context, indicating a potential gap in the original poster's understanding of these concepts.

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Homework Statement



Consider a uniform rod of mass 12 kg and length 1.0 m. At its end, the rod is attached to a fixed, fricition free pivot. initially the rod is balanced vertically abbove the pivot and begins to fall (from rest) as shown. Determine

a) the angual acceleration of the rod as it passes through the horizontal at B
b) the angual speed of the rod as it passes through the vertical at C

Homework Equations



i want to say...

w=wo + at
θ = wot + 0.5at^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I have absolutely no clue how to start this off... what i wanted to do was find some information at point A such as the angle it makes there or the velocity

then from this information.. find angular acceleration at B for partt a.

then use the info from a to find angular speed at C

but i have no clue how to start this off.. if any1 can help me start it off it will be a big help!
 

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I=mr^2 and Torque=Ia(angular)… you saying to use these. If i find I(inertia) at point a then i use that and find angular acceleration at B? is that what your hinting towards?
 
Hello, yes, that is what I mean. Consider that rod is rotating about it's end.
 
i just realized how can i find inertia (I) at a because i don't know what Torque is ….

i worked something out and both torque and I were 12 :S that looks wrong
 
You don't need to know the torque to find the moment of inertia of the rod; it's solely a function of the geometry and the mass distribution. The moment of inertia of a uniform thin rod about an axis through its end is well known. (Hint: you can either look this up or use elementary calculus.)

For determining the torque, you might wish to consider the rod at a displacement ##\theta## from it's initial equilibrium position, and then consider the forces acting upon it.
 

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