Rotational Motion maximum acceleration

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The problem involves determining the maximum acceleration of a truck carrying a refrigerator before it tips over. The refrigerator's dimensions and weight are provided, and the center of gravity is noted to be at its geometrical center. The discussion centers around the concepts of torque and moments in the context of rotational motion.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the forces acting on the refrigerator and the moments created by these forces. There is discussion about using torque to analyze the tipping point, with some participants questioning how to find moments without time and clarifying the definitions of torque versus momentum.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various interpretations of the forces and moments involved. Some have provided insights into setting up the torque balance, while others are clarifying misunderstandings about the terms used. There is no explicit consensus yet, but the discussion is moving towards a clearer understanding of the mechanics involved.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the setup of the problem and the application of concepts like torque and moments. There are indications of differing interpretations of the distances involved in the calculations, which may affect the approach taken.

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Homework Statement



7. A 130-kg refrigerator that is 2.30 m tall and 90.0 cm wide is being delivered by a truck. The center of gravity of the refrigerator is located at its geometrical center and the refrigerator is facing sideways in the truck and is prevented from sliding. What is the maximum acceleration that the truck can have before the refrigerator begins to tip over?

a. 4.17 m/s2

*b. 3.84 m/s2

c. 7.68 m/s2

d. 8.34 m/s2

Homework Equations



a=v2/r

The Attempt at a Solution



I have no idea what to do. I thought that the radius should be the distance between the center of mass and the center of the fridge when it starts moving, but in this case the radius will change (but it doesn't matter cause we want the start of the motion). I also think that it has to do with force and torque and breaking the equilibrium, but I don't know.
 
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Solve the problem by summing moments at the edge that would remain on the ground (center of rotation). When the moment produced by the truck accelerating equals the moment due to the weight of the refrigerator, tipping (rotation) begins. Assume the weight of the appliance is concentrated at its CG. Assume the force due to truck acceleration is also applied at the CG.
 
How will i find the moments without the time :s
 
Moments are force times distance. It's just like torque. The frig will tip on one of its edges. The weight assumed concentrated at its CG creates a 'moment' in one direction of rotation. The acceleration of the truck provides another force at the CG. When that moment (torque) just equals the moment (torque) due to its weight, the frig starts to tip. Maybe the term moment is no longer used. It was when I came along.
 
Ohh i thought you ment momentum :s ups so ittl be lke
m*a*dx=m*g*dy
130*a*.9/2=130*9.81*2.3/2
 
130*a*.9/2=130*9.81*2.3/2

Take a good look at this. You have a mistake.
 
I thought two things 1. That the acceleration should be 9.81*r and 2. That the distance is really 2.3/2 - .9/2 brcause it doesn't fall all the way
 
130*a*.9/2=130*9.81*2.3/2

This torque balance has the 'a' and 9.81 switched around. The height of the frig is 2.3 meters. CG therefore is located at 2.3/2 meters from truck bed. When the truck accelerates, the mass of the frig creates a torque about the rear edge (assuming truck accelerates frontward) that equals force times radius (moment arm as I call it). The force is mass times acc. The moment arm is the distance from the truck bed to the CG.

The opposing torque is due to the weight of frig. It's radius (moment arm) is .9/2. Its force is 130 times 9.81.

Does this help?
 
Ohh i got it so its lke the truck is pushing the fridge through the cm but it is resisting with its weight
 
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That's it.
 
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:) thanks!
 

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