Rotational Motion Question, lever arm with two masses

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The discussion centers on calculating the angular acceleration of a system consisting of a uniform rigid rod and two point masses. The rod has a mass of 2.7 kg and a length of 3.1 m, while the point masses are 6.7 kg and 1.6 kg. The correct approach involves calculating the total moment of inertia by including the contributions from both point masses, leading to an angular acceleration of 22.52 rad/s² when the rod is at an angle of 51.1 degrees with the horizontal. The initial calculation of inertia was incomplete, as it did not account for the masses at the ends of the rod.

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Homework Statement


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A uniform rigid rod with mass Mr = 2.7 kg, length L = 3.1 m rotates in the vertical xy plane about a frictionless pivot through its center. Two point-like particles m1 and m2, with masses m1 = 6.7 kg and m2 = 1.6 kg, are attached at the ends of the rod. What is the magnitude of the angular acceleration of the system when the rod makes an angle of 51.1 degrees with the horizontal? (m2 is 51.1 degrees above the horizontal, and m1 is 51.1 degrees below the horizontal).

Homework Equations



Torque=Inertia*Angular Acceleration

Inertia of uniform rigid rod = mL^2/12

The Attempt at a Solution



I began by calculating inertia, like this:

I = mL^2/12 = (2.7kg)(3.1m)2/12=2.16225 kgm2

Then I calculated the gravitational forces from m1 and m2:

m1g=(6.7kg)(9.8m/s2)=65.66N

m2g=(1.6kg)(9.8m/s2)=15.68N

Then I determined the component of these forces which act perpendicular to the lever arm:

65.66N*cos51.1=41.23N

15.68N*cos51.1=9.84N

Then I calculated the net torque/moment (clockwise negative, counterclockwise positive):

Radius = 1/2(3.1m)=1.55m

Torque = (1.55m41.23N)-(1.55m9.84N) = 48.65Nm

Then I calculated the angular acceleration:

Angular acceleration = Torque/Inertia

Angular acceleration = 48.65Nm/2.16kg*m2

Angular acceleration = 22.52 rad/s2

I have been told my answer is incorrect through an online system where I am able to check my answers, however I'm not sure where I went wrong. If anyone would be able to spot an error, or guide me in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Hi shmoop,

Welcome to Physics Forums!

Take another look at your moment of inertia for the system. What masses will contribute to the moment of inertia?
 
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Hi shmoop,

Welcome to Physics Forums!

Take another look at your moment of inertia for the system. What masses will contribute to the moment of inertia?

Thank you SO much! I figured it out by adding the inertias of the two masses at the ends to the total inertia.
 

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