Row Reduction over indicated field

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving solving a system using Gauss-Jordan elimination with coefficients in \mathbb{Z}_3. The speaker suggests solving the system as usual and then interpreting the solution in \mathbb{Z}_3. They also explain how to perform the arithmetic in \mathbb{Z}_3, using examples to illustrate how to get the nearest multiple of 3 and keep all entries positive. The conversation ends with a request for further clarification on the concept of -1 and -2 in \mathbb{Z}_3.
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Hi-

I am taking linear algebra and the teacher threw some problems at us that I cannot seem to figure out or find examples for online. Also, the textbook doesn't even cover the material.

The problem states:
Using Gauss-Jordan elimination, solve the following system with coefficients in indicated field.

In Z3:

2x + y = 1
x + y = 2

Now I understand completely how to row reduce this system, but am not sure how to proceed in Z3.

Any help appreciated. Thanks!
 
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The best thing to do here is to solve the system as you normally would and then interpret the solution in [itex]\mathbb{Z}_3[/itex].

So, how would you proceed normally?? Just write the first step, don't solve it completely yet.
 
  • #3
Thanks for the reply.

The first thing I would do is swap row 1 and row 2 to get a leading 1 in row 1.

[1 1 l 2]
[2 1 l 1]

From here would take R2-2R1.
 
  • #4
OK, so do R2-2R1. But be aware that the arithmetic is in [itex]\mathbb{Z}_3[/itex].

So, for example, the second column gives us 1-2*1=-1=2.
 
  • #5
or, (to keep it straight as you go) realize that -2 in Z3 is actually 1, so instead of R2-2R1, use R2+R1 (which gives you 3 = 0 in the first column).

that is, instead of aiming to "zero out" entries, you just want to get them to the nearest multiple of 3 (which amounts to the same thing in Z3). with a little practice, you can see how to do this and always keep all the entries positive, which might help a bit.
 
  • #6
micromass said:
OK, so do R2-2R1. But be aware that the arithmetic is in [itex]\mathbb{Z}_3[/itex].

So, for example, the second column gives us 1-2*1=-1=2.

Deveno said:
or, (to keep it straight as you go) realize that -2 in Z3 is actually 1, so instead of R2-2R1, use R2+R1 (which gives you 3 = 0 in the first column).

that is, instead of aiming to "zero out" entries, you just want to get them to the nearest multiple of 3 (which amounts to the same thing in Z3). with a little practice, you can see how to do this and always keep all the entries positive, which might help a bit.

Thanks for the reply. The part I don't understand is how -1 = 2 and -2 = 1 in Z3. Would you be able to explain this part to me?
 

1. What is row reduction over an indicated field?

Row reduction over an indicated field is a mathematical process used to simplify a system of linear equations by transforming the equations into an equivalent system with a simpler structure. It involves manipulating the rows of a matrix using elementary row operations, such as swapping rows, multiplying rows by a scalar, or adding a multiple of one row to another.

2. Why is row reduction over an indicated field important?

Row reduction over an indicated field is important because it allows us to solve systems of linear equations efficiently. By reducing a system of equations to its simplest form, we can easily determine the values of the variables and find a solution that satisfies all of the equations.

3. What is the difference between row reduction over an indicated field and row reduction over the real numbers?

The main difference between row reduction over an indicated field and row reduction over the real numbers is the type of numbers used in the process. In row reduction over an indicated field, the numbers used can be any element from a specific field, such as rational numbers, real numbers, or complex numbers. In row reduction over the real numbers, only real numbers are used.

4. Can row reduction over an indicated field be used for non-linear systems of equations?

No, row reduction over an indicated field can only be used for linear systems of equations. This is because the process relies on the properties of linear equations, such as the ability to combine and manipulate them using elementary row operations. Non-linear systems of equations do not have these same properties and therefore cannot be solved using row reduction over an indicated field.

5. Are there any limitations to row reduction over an indicated field?

Although row reduction over an indicated field is a powerful tool for solving linear systems of equations, it does have its limitations. One limitation is that it cannot be used for systems with infinitely many solutions. Another limitation is that it may not work for systems with inconsistent equations, where there is no solution that satisfies all of the equations. In these cases, other methods may need to be used to find a solution.

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