Sakurai pr. 1.18 - bra-c-ket sandwiches

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The discussion revolves around a problem in quantum mechanics related to Gaussian wave packets and their properties, specifically focusing on the minimum uncertainty relation and the evaluation of certain matrix elements involving momentum operators.

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  • Participants are comparing their results with others regarding the evaluation of matrix elements involving the momentum operator and the implications of their calculations. There is a focus on the transition from one form of the expression to another and the validity of these steps.

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Some participants are actively working through their calculations and expressing uncertainty about specific steps, particularly regarding the application of the momentum operator and the resulting implications. There is a recognition of differing interpretations of the calculations presented.

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Participants are navigating through complex expressions and are questioning the correctness of their sources and the steps they have taken in their calculations. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify these mathematical relationships without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement



c) explicit calculations, using the usual rules of wave mechanics, show that the wave function for a Gaussian wave packet given by

\left\langle {x'|\alpha } \right\rangle = {(2\pi {d^2})^{ - 1/4}}\exp \left( {{\bf{i}}{\textstyle{{\left\langle p \right\rangle x'} \over \hbar }} - {\textstyle{{{{(x' - \left\langle x \right\rangle )}^2}} \over {4{d^2}}}}} \right)

…satisfies the minimum uncertainty relation,
\sqrt {\left\langle {\Delta {x^2}} \right\rangle } \sqrt {\left\langle {\Delta {p^2}} \right\rangle } = {\textstyle{1 \over 2}}\hbar

Prove that the requirement,
\left\langle {x'|\Delta x|\alpha } \right\rangle = \lambda \cdot \left\langle {x'|\Delta p|\alpha } \right\rangle {\rm{ Re(}}\lambda ) = 0

…is indeed satisfied for such a Gaussian wavepacket, in agreement with b, which said,
{\left\langle {\Delta {A^2}} \right\rangle \left\langle {\Delta {B^2}} \right\rangle = {\textstyle{1 \over 4}}{{\left| {\left\langle {\left[ {\Delta A,\Delta B} \right]} \right\rangle } \right|}^2}}

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dirac's bra-c-kets

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well, I'm fine chunking through this stuff, but i reached this step, where i am comparing my result to someone else's, and they claim,
\left\langle {x'|\Delta p|\alpha } \right\rangle = \left\langle {x'|(p - \left\langle p \right\rangle )|\alpha } \right\rangle = \left\langle {x'|p|\alpha } \right\rangle - \left\langle p \right\rangle \cdot \left\langle {x'|\alpha } \right\rangle = ... = - {\bf{i}}\hbar {\textstyle{\partial \over {\partial x'}}}\left\langle {x'|\alpha } \right\rangle - \left\langle p \right\rangle \cdot \left\langle {x'|\alpha } \right\rangle

i recognize -i*hbar*(d/dx) as the momentum operator, of course. but i am at odds with the "..." i indicated between equals signs above. i tried inserting an identity operator,
\left\langle {x'|p|\alpha } \right\rangle = \left\langle {x'|p{\bf{I}}|\alpha } \right\rangle

and chunked out,
\left\langle {x'|p{\bf{I}}|\alpha } \right\rangle = \left\langle {x'|p\left( {\int {\left| {x'} \right\rangle \left\langle {x'} \right|} \cdot dx'} \right)|\alpha } \right\rangle = \int {\left\langle {x'|p|x'} \right\rangle \cdot \left\langle {x'|\alpha } \right\rangle \cdot dx'}

and i found this implied (i think),
\int {\left\langle {x'|p|x'} \right\rangle \cdot \left\langle {x'|\alpha } \right\rangle \cdot dx'} = p\left\langle {x'|\alpha } \right\rangle

which looks not right to me.

suggestions? or is my source incorrect?
 
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well, I'm fine chunking through this stuff, but i reached this step, where i am comparing my result to someone else's, and they claim,

\left\langle {x'|\Delta p|\alpha } \right\rangle = \left\langle {x'|(p - \left\langle p \right\rangle )|\alpha } \right\rangle = \left\langle {x'|p|\alpha } \right\rangle - \left\langle p \right\rangle \cdot \left\langle {x'|\alpha } \right\rangle = ... = - {\bf{i}}\hbar {\textstyle{\partial \over {\partial x'}}}\left\langle {x'|\alpha } \right\rangle - \left\langle p \right\rangle \cdot \left\langle {x'|\alpha } \right\rangle

did that go through?
 
argh! try this

\left\langle {x'|\Delta p|\alpha } \right\rangle = \left\langle {x'|(p - \left\langle p \right\rangle )|\alpha } \right\rangle = \left\langle {x'|p|\alpha } \right\rangle - \left\langle p \right\rangle \cdot \left\langle {x'|\alpha } \right\rangle = - {\bf{i}}\hbar {\textstyle{\partial \over {\partial x'}}}\left\langle {x'|\alpha } \right\rangle - \left\langle p \right\rangle \cdot \left\langle {x'|\alpha } \right\rangle
 
sigh...how obnoxious. well, "i found this implied (i think)" is where my real question is...
 

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