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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around salary expectations for new graduates in Electrical Engineering, particularly in the South East area, and the timing for job applications. Participants share insights based on personal experiences and industry knowledge, addressing both salary ranges and application strategies.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about salary expectations, noting that friends with a BSEE earn between 55k-64k, and wonders what to expect with an MSEE.
  • Another participant suggests starting the job search immediately, citing the current economic climate as a reason to begin early.
  • A different viewpoint recommends waiting until after the New Year to apply seriously, arguing that employers may disregard resumes from candidates who cannot start until May.
  • One participant shares their experience, indicating that a starting salary of 55k-64k is reasonable unless the candidate has significant internship experience or an impressive thesis.
  • It is noted that experience may outweigh a master's degree unless the candidate has strong internship credentials, with some suggesting that a BSEE with experience could be viewed similarly to an MSEE.
  • Another participant mentions that good performance can lead to rapid salary increases, sharing personal experiences of significant raises in the early years of their career.
  • There is a consensus that most companies are looking to fill positions quickly, with advice to begin applying at the start of the last semester, though sending applications earlier may not yield much interest.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the appropriate timing for job applications and the weight of experience versus advanced degrees in determining salary expectations. No consensus is reached on the best approach to job searching or salary expectations.

Contextual Notes

Participants' views are influenced by personal experiences and the current job market, which may vary significantly based on individual circumstances and specific industries within Electrical Engineering.

Who May Find This Useful

New graduates in Electrical Engineering, students nearing graduation, and individuals interested in understanding salary expectations and job application strategies in the engineering field.

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I was curious about my salary expectations for the South East area in Electrical Engineering.

I have my BSEE and will be finishing up my MSEE this year (May 2012).

My gpa's are decent, 3.4 and 4.0 respectively. I have had 2 internships and am the president of an honor society and am active in a few other things as well. I have done some research online for the starting MSEE salaries but couldn't find much. What should I expect/ask for? All of my BSEE friends have jobs in the SouthEast in various industries ranging from 55k-64k, so naturally I'm expecting more than that, but exactly how much is unsure.

Next, since I graduate in May '12 when would be a good time to start applying for jobs? I'm currently researching companies to see which I'm really interested in but when would be a good time to actually apply for some of the available positions? I know that new positions will definitely pop up in January 2012 or sometime next year but wouldn't mind getting a head start on the job hunting!

Thanks
 
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Start looking now. You don't have much to lose, especially in this economy.
 
You can start looking now, but I wouldn't start seriously applying until after the New Year. I worked in the electronics industry for many years, and I can tell you that people simply can't afford to think that far ahead. If you send them a resume now saying that you aren't available until May, 2012, they will probably just throw it away. I would have. However, starting to research companies and make contacts for when you are ready is a good idea.
 
I work as an engineer in the south east as well and I think you should be happy with 55k-64k unless you had some really good internship experience (did actual engineering work). When I started ten years ago a BSEE in the area was starting at about 10k less than that.

Here is what I have found in my limited experience on the subject.

1.) Experience trumps a MS unless you have solid internship or an excellent thesis (if you went that route). In reality, a BS with 2-3 years good experience and an MS are about equal if not favoring the BS. The MS can open up some jobs the BS might not be able to get and will help once you get experience.

There are a lot of intangibles that make a good engineer that aren't necessarily tested/reflected on education. Attention to detail, persistence, troubleshooting, initiative, business acumen (unfortunately), etc.

2.) If you are good, your salary should go up pretty quick. In my first 4 years of working I had a 20% raise on merit and a 30% raise to keep me from taking another job.


As far as when. Most companies are advertising openings are looking to fill them within a few months if not immediately. I would really start hitting it the beginning of your last semester. There isn't any harm in sending stuff out now, but don't expect a lot of interest if you can't start for a year.
 

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