Same string, two differents tensions. A concept clarification

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The discussion clarifies the concept of tension in a massless string over a pulley with mass and radius. It establishes that the tension on either side of the pulley (T1 and T2) can differ due to the forces exerted by the pulley, which can cause rotation and acceleration. The reasoning that tension remains constant in a massless string fails when considering the dynamics of a pulley that interacts with the string. This distinction is crucial for accurately analyzing systems involving pulleys and tension.

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In problems which have a pulley with a certain mass and radius, and a massless string over it, we often consider the tension of the left part of the string different than the tension of the right part of the string.

I thought that since the string is massless, the tensions should be the same in every element of the string, because of the Newton law applied to such element leads to F=T1 - T2 = M.a =0.a=0 ==> T1=T2 right?
Clearly I'm wrong, but Why? Why is T1 different than T2 in problems with pulleys that can suffer rotation (mass and radius well-defined)?
 
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Your reasoning is fine for a continuous stretch of massless string--as long as there's nothing in the middle interacting with it. Realize that the pulley exerts forces on the string that are different in each direction. If the tension were the same on both sides of the pulley, how could the string accelerate? If the pulley--as well as the string--was massless, then your reasoning would work.
 

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