Sand Bags & Flooding: How Effective?

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The discussion revolves around the effectiveness of sandbags in preventing flooding, particularly in residential areas. Participants explore the mechanics of sandbags, their limitations, and additional considerations when dealing with floodwaters.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the permeability of sand and its effectiveness in flood prevention, suggesting that while sandbags are standard practice, they may not be entirely effective without additional barriers.
  • Others propose that the effectiveness of sandbags can be enhanced by using impermeable materials, such as plastic sheets, to create a more effective barrier against water ingress.
  • A participant shares a personal experience regarding the proximity of their home to flooding and expresses intent to use sandbags as a precaution.
  • Another participant recounts the successful use of an older canvas sandbag levee, indicating that even older methods can still be effective under certain conditions.
  • Concerns are raised about the need to manage sewer connections during flooding to prevent sewage backflow into homes, highlighting an additional layer of complexity in flood management.
  • Technical details are provided regarding methods to plug sewer lines to prevent flooding from sewage, with some participants sharing personal experiences and insights from plumbing work.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the effectiveness of sandbags, with some advocating for their use while others emphasize the need for additional measures to enhance their effectiveness. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best practices for flood prevention and management.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions about the conditions under which sandbags are used, including the need for impermeable barriers and the challenges posed by sewer connections during flooding. There is also mention of personal experiences that may not reflect broader effectiveness.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to homeowners in flood-prone areas, emergency preparedness planners, and individuals seeking to understand flood management techniques.

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How much use are sand bags when there is flooding? I mean sand is pretty permeable, so surely the water must get through fairly easily, yet it seems to be standard procedure to block doors with them.
 
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The sand is in plastic bags or a plastic/polymer barrier is placed over the bags. The objective is to build a temporary wall, and the sand bags simply provide mass with which to form the wall.

But the key is to make the barrier as impermeable to water - i.e. use plastic sheet or plastic bags - as much as possible. It is better than nothing.

Without an impermeable barrier, the sand bags simply slowly the ingress of water, and then one needs a collection system and pump to remove the water as fast as it flows in.
 
That makes sense. I'd been puzzling over that one for a while. I may have to invest in some- my house was a couple of inches off flooding the other day (many weren't so lucky) and there's more rain forcast for the weekend.
 
My Granny has a older canvas sand bag levy around the back of her property. Its well grown over with grass and even trees. but it still worked just fine last spring when the small river over ran its banks.
 
The other thing to remember is that if the house is connected to a sewer service - the connection has to be shutoff because the floodwater will push the sewage back into the house and flood it. Worse than just flooding is being flooded with raw sewage.
 
How do you shut off the sewer line?
 
Sewer lines don't have valves, so they have to be plugged. Some people just cram towels or something like that in the lines.

In some cases, one could open a clean out (threaded plug) usually located on a T-fitting. My septic line goes through the basement across the ceiling, through an L, drops through a short section to a T with a cleanout. I could remove the plug and insert a long plug to seal it if necessary.

If one does not have a clean out on the main line, then one has to diconnect drainlines to sinks and plug them. Toilets, bathtubs and showers have to be plugged because there is usually no access to the drainline.

I used to do work in commercial plumbing - and I think the plumbing in most houses is poorly designed because of the limited access. Commerical plumbing usually had access panels and pipe chases so that supply and DWV could be accessed.
 
matthyaouw said:
my house was a couple of inches off flooding the other day

Lucky... :frown:
 
Things not so good at your end? :frown:
 
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