Satellites and the Earth's Magnetic Field

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of the Earth's magnetic field on satellites, particularly regarding how it might induce currents in their circuitry and influence their orbits. Participants explore both theoretical and practical implications of these interactions, considering different orbital types and the presence of magnetic field variations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether a satellite's circuitry could be affected by the Earth's magnetic field inducing a current, particularly when moving quickly through it.
  • It is noted that for satellites in polar orbits, the magnetic field's magnitude and direction change slowly, which may not significantly impact most satellite circuitry.
  • One participant mentions that the Earth's magnetic field is relatively small at orbital heights, suggesting that while changes can be detected, they may not pose problems for satellite operations.
  • Concerns are raised about the effects of the Van Allen radiation belts on high orbiting satellites, with a suggestion that electronics for space use are typically "radiation hardened."
  • Another participant points out that for Low Earth Orbit (LEO) satellites, atmospheric heating and expansion present a more significant challenge than magnetic field interactions.
  • There is a discussion about how eddy currents in a satellite's conductive parts could create a small drag effect, potentially lowering its orbit over time.
  • Some participants express curiosity about the implications of magnetic field variations on a satellite's spin stability, particularly for spin-stabilized satellites.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the Earth's magnetic field has limited impact on satellite circuitry and orbits, but multiple competing views remain regarding the significance of eddy currents and radiation effects. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the overall implications of these factors.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the effects of the Earth's magnetic field are influenced by the satellite's orbit type, and there are unresolved questions about the extent of these effects and their practical significance.

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So i was just wondering if a satellite's circuitry could be affected by the Earth's own magnetic field inducing a current, if it was moving through it quickly enough (the space station for example), and how it might mess with it? Also considering a satellite is a big hunk of metal, could passing over areas with a stronger magnetic field strength than others affect its orbit? Just curious, any answers would help please & thanks.
 
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AdenB14 said:
So i was just wondering if a satellite's circuitry could be affected by the Earth's own magnetic field inducing a current, if it was moving through it quickly enough (the space station for example), and how it might mess with it? Also considering a satellite is a big hunk of metal, could passing over areas with a stronger magnetic field strength than others affect its orbit?Just curious, any answers would help please & thanks.
Welcome to the PF. :smile:

To induce a current, the magnetic field through a loop must be changing (in magnitude or direction or both). For the ISS in a mostly equatorial orbit, the magnetic field is pretty much the same magnitude, and pointing the same direction for its whole orbit.

For a satellite in a polar orbit, the magnitude and direction will change, but very slowly (it takes half an orbit to reverse the direction), and the Earth's magnetic field is very small, especially at orbital heights. With a sensitive instrument, you could detect the changes, but it should not pose a problem for most circuitry in a satellite or space station.

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Hello Aden, :welcome:

It's one of the ISS issues, yes.
Here is a picture on page 25
 
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AdenB14 said:
So i was just wondering if a satellite's circuitry could be affected by the Earth's own magnetic field inducing a current, if it was moving through it quickly enough (the space station for example), and how it might mess with it? Also considering a satellite is a big hunk of metal, could passing over areas with a stronger magnetic field strength than others affect its orbit?

berkeman said:
For a satellite in a polar orbit, the magnitude and direction will change, but very slowly (it takes half an orbit to reverse the direction), and the Earth's magnetic field is very small, especially at orbital heights. With a sensitive instrument, you could detect the changes, but it should not pose a problem for most circuitry in a satellite or space station.

agreed

@AdenB14
of bigger concern is the effects from the Van Allen radiation belts for the very high orbiting satellites ... electronic for space use tend to be "radiation hardened"

A list of links to read up on ...
https://www.bing.com/search?q=radia...&src=IE-SearchBox&FORM=IENTTR&conversationid=

For LEO ( Low Earth Orbit) satellites, including the ISS ... heating and subsequent expansion of the Earths atmosphere is a much bigger problem
This was the main reason for the loss of the Skylab space station's premature re-entry and demise ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkylabDave
 
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BvU said:
Hello Aden, :welcome:

It's one of the ISS issues, yes.
Here is a picture on page 25
Interesting, I didn't now the ISS orbit was inclined that much. Still, I guess I'll have to do more reading to see how such a small change in B-field can induce much in the way of voltages or currents...
 
BvU said:
Hello Aden,

It's one of the ISS issues, yes.
Here is a picture on page 25

but fortunately one that was solved and alleviating the threat :smile:

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Dave
 

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It's one of the ISS issues, yes.
Here is a picture on page 25

awesome article ... saved :smile:
 
AdenB14 said:
Also considering a satellite is a big hunk of metal, could passing over areas with a stronger magnetic field strength than others affect its orbit?
As a satellite moves through the Earth's magnetic field, eddy currents in the conductive parts of the satellite will cause a very small drag that will gradually bring the satellite down into a lower orbit, (where counter-intuitively, it will be traveling very slightly faster).

If the satellite is spin stabilised then eddy currents due to interaction of the spin in the Earth's magnetic field may lead to instability of the spin axis.
 

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