Saturated Fatty Acids: What's the Right Answer?

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The discussion centers on the properties of saturated fatty acids, specifically addressing a test question regarding their characteristics. The correct answer is identified as (a) "no double bonds," while the user argues for (d) "maximum number of single bonds." The debate highlights the ambiguity in the question due to the presence of a carbonyl group in the carboxyl structure, which complicates the definition of saturation. Participants suggest a diplomatic approach for challenging the professor's decision, emphasizing the need to clarify the question's wording to reflect the nuances of saturated fatty acids.

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I got my test back and one of the questions was the following

Which is a property of a saturated fatty acid?
(a) no double bonds
(b) (c) rubbish
(d) maximum number of single bonds

I answered (d), but the professor says it's (a).

I don't think it's (a) for two reasons-- a pi double bond between carbon and oxygen in the carboxyl group of hte molecule (as 'a' never specified no double bonds in carbon to carbon chain), and (d) is correct--apart from the pi carbon/oxygen bond, all others must be single in order for the fatty acid to be fully saturated with hydrogen.

Where am I going wrong?
 
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I sincerely think I might be right, can anybody confirm it?
 
It's a lousy question; he offered lousy answers. That said, go with "a." You can expoxidize a double bond and get a "maximum number of single bonds," going to be a rather weird acid, but semantically not a "saturated fatty acid." Probably best not to argue from your "semantic" point that the acid contains a carbonyl group --- if you can "sell" the ambiguity of the two choices in a diplomatic fashion, you might stand a chance. If you're dealing with a "hard-head," give it up for this case, and remember it for the next.
 
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First, thanks for the reply =D

I agree it was a lousy question (the truth being my professor does not seem truly sure of what he is doing at times). However, I fail to see how "a" could be a better answer than "d" when I have to make assumptions in order for "a" to be correct.

He is a hardhead and was rather rude when I asked him about it... he told me I should've known to ignore the carboxyl group. But if we ignore the carboxyl group, what do we call the molecule? Fatty? =P And how would it bond to glycerol? In fact, how would that make "d" wrong?

Luckily if I opt to challenge (which I'm thinking about), soembody else will review the challenge.

Btw, I have no clue what expoxidize means, but it sounds complicated and I wouldnt' expect us to have to know it.
 
Any challenge needs to be based on the ambiguities implicit in both possible answers, and on the fact that you have to make assumptions in both cases. Do NOT try to assert that you are correct and the instructor is NOT --- that will create bad feelings. Leave room for the "face-saving" acknowledgment that the answers were ambiguous.
 
I think you may win if you restate the question as a true-false type question in appeal. Thus the question "does saturated fatty acid have double bonds--true or false--and the correct answer is false due to C = O bond. Next the question "does saturated fatty acid have maximum number of single bonds" -- true or false--and the correct answer is true.
Thus, while answer (a) can be false is some situation answer (d) can never be false--thus answer (d) is "better" answer than (a). Good luck with your appeal.
 
I'm goign with that strategy, but I always try to be as polite as possible (although in a class of 100s in highly unlikely for him to remember who I am, however I like to believe I'm a good mannered individual anyway, go figure =/)
 
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I'm goign with that strategy, but I always try to be as polite as possible (although in a class of 100s in highly unlikely for him to remember who I am, however I like to believe I'm a good mannered individual anyway, go figure =/)
end3r7--there is an error in my first true-false question, you need to add the word "no" before the words "double bonds"--this is the way the test question (a) is stated. Sorry for the confusion, good luck with your appeal.
 

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