Scalar Equations of a plane in space

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The discussion revolves around finding the scalar equation of a plane that contains two intersecting lines represented in parametric form. The subject area includes vector calculus and geometry, particularly focusing on the properties of planes in three-dimensional space.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the cross product to find a normal vector for the plane. There is an attempt to substitute a point into the plane equation to solve for a constant, D. Questions arise about the correctness of the calculations and the assumptions made regarding the normal vector and the point chosen.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes attempts to verify calculations and clarify the steps taken to derive the plane equation. Some participants express uncertainty about the results obtained, particularly regarding the value of D and the final equation compared to a reference answer from a book. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the approaches taken.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the solution must be approached geometrically, as specified by course requirements. There is an emphasis on understanding the geometric interpretation of the problem rather than purely algebraic manipulation.

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One question is bothering me..

Find the scalar equation of the plane that contains the intersecting lines

(x-2)\1=y\2=(z+3)\3

and (x-2)/-3=y\4=(z+3)\2

What I've tried is doing the cross product of (1,2,3)and(-3,4,2)
I get a Normal and then put it into scalar form...

Substitute (2,0,-3) into it to find D and I get a wrong answer...

Can anyone help, by the way it has to be done geometricaly because that's the course,.,,,thanks
 
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thomasrules said:
One question is bothering me..

Find the scalar equation of the plane that contains the intersecting lines

(x-2)\1=y\2=(z+3)\3

and (x-2)/-3=y\4=(z+3)\2

What I've tried is doing the cross product of (1,2,3)and(-3,4,2)
I get a Normal and then put it into scalar form...

Substitute (2,0,-3) into it to find D and I get a wrong answer...

Can anyone help, by the way it has to be done geometricaly because that's the course,.,,,thanks

It's hard to help without knowing exactly what you did. Yes, taking the cross product of (1, 2, 3) and (-3, 4, 2) will give a vector perpendicular to the plane. What result did you get?
I'm guessing that you used the normal vector together with a point in the plane to find the equation of the plane. The obvious choice for that point, I would think, would be (2, 0, -3). That is, if <A, B, C> is your normal vector then A(x- 2)+ By+ C(z+ 3)= 0 is the equation of the plane.
I take it your D is -2A+ 3C. How do you know you got a wrong answer? Were you told what the answer should be?
 
Ok I did (1,2,3)x(-3,4,2)=(-8,-11,10)

tHEN I wrote -8x-11y+10z+D=0

Substituting the P(2,0,-3) into that -8(2)+10(-3)+D=0

D=-46

But the answer in the book is 10x+11y-10z-50=0
 
thomasrules said:
Ok I did (1,2,3)x(-3,4,2)=(-8,-11,10)

tHEN I wrote -8x-11y+10z+D=0

Substituting the P(2,0,-3) into that -8(2)+10(-3)+D=0

D=-46

But the answer in the book is 10x+11y-10z-50=0
Try (1, 2, 3)x(-3, 4, 2) again! It's not just your D that is wrong.
 

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