SDS vs Dodecanol Hydrolysis: What's the Difference?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the hydrolysis of sodium dodecyl sulfate (SDS) and its potential conversion to dodecanol. Participants explore the nature of the hydrolysis process, whether it is bacterial or chemical, and the conditions under which these reactions may occur.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the hydrolysis of SDS and whether dodecanol is a product of this process.
  • Another participant questions the type of hydrolysis involved, suggesting it might be chemical.
  • A participant shares an observation about foam stability in SDS solutions over time, speculating that dodecanol formation may be responsible for the loss of foam.
  • Concerns are raised about bacterial contamination in dilute soap solutions, which could affect foamability and may lead to hydrolysis.
  • One participant asserts that bacterial hydrolysis of SDS can produce dodecanol and inorganic sulfate, while also noting that abiotic hydrolysis would likely require specific pH conditions.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the spontaneous formation of dodecanol in the absence of specific conditions and seeks clarification on bacterial hydrolysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of hydrolysis occurring in SDS solutions, with some suggesting bacterial involvement while others consider chemical processes. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific mechanisms and conditions required for hydrolysis.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of literature on the hydrolysis of SDS in distilled water and the potential need for specific pH conditions for abiotic hydrolysis to occur.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying surfactants, hydrolysis processes, or microbial effects on chemical stability in solutions.

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Dear Forumers,

Can anyone help me?
I need information about the hydroylsis of SDS (sodium dodecyl sulphate). :confused:
Dodecanol forms from SDS, is it true?

Thank you very much in advance!

T. the M.
 
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What type of hydrolysis, bacterial, chemical?

Lauryl alcohol is indeed a hydrolysis product of sodium lauryl sulfate.
 
What type of hydrolysis, bacterial, chemical?

Chemical, I think. My observation is the following: I mix a little amount (0.05mass%) of SDS with distilled water, and I can make nice foam from it without any problem. But after a few weeks I cannot create nice foam. Probably it is due to the formation of dodecanol from SDS (sodium dodecyl sulphate), but I don't know for sure what it is process, I've never heard about it.
 
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I have never heard of a chemical hydrolysis occurring at the pH of distilled water + SDS. Perhaps some bugs are growing in it? Bacterial contamination of dilute soap solutions is very common.
 
Well, I have simply no idea.. :confused:

There can be bacterial contamination. Do you mean that this can cause the loss of foamability of the mixture? Can you please clarify me what does bacterial hydrolysis mean?

To tell the truth I didn't find anything in the literature about the hydrolysis of SDS in distilled water. Do you mean that the formation of dodecanol cannot occur spontaneously in this system? (This mixture is stored for a long time, weeks, in room temperature.) Does it need a certain pH-value?

Thanks for help in advance, youre very kind! :rolleyes:

T.
 
Dilute, pure soap solutions are a growth medium for bacteria. Unless extreme processing conditions are employed both at the user's end and the soap producer's end, bacterial contamination is inevitable. Soap manufacturers are always plagued with bugs growing in their products and include bacteriostats (chemicals) and careful handling controls in their products. Bacterial hydrolysis of SDS (also known as SLS or sodium lauryl sulate) occurs readily to produce dodecanol and inorganic sulfate. The sulfate can be reduced under anerobic conditions to sulfide. Dodecanol rapidly degrades further to CO2 under aerobic conditions. Signs of bacterial contamination include cloudiness, pressurized containers and odd smells, especially sulfide to which your nose is extremely sensitive.

Abiotic hydrolysis of sulfate would probably require a fairly high pH or a fairly low pH. Unless you have measured the pH and confirmed one of these conditions, abiotic hydrolysis is not likely the culprit.


Look on the back of your hair shampoo sometime. You will see one or several ingredients near the end of the ingredient list that are the biocides (methylisothiazolinone, benzalkonium chloride, potassium sorbate, methylchloroisothiazolinone, BHA, BHT, etc...). These bacteriostats/fungicides/algacides are required for the shampoo 'concentrate' to remain stable on the shelf.
 
Many thanks

Dear Chemisttree,

That's amazing, many-many thanks for your reply! :smile:

You helped me a lot, I learned a lot!

Kind regards,

T.the M.
 

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